Re: Faster distinct query?

From: Ryan Booz <ryan(at)timescale(dot)com>
To: "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Michael Lewis <mlewis(at)entrata(dot)com>, Israel Brewster <ijbrewster(at)alaska(dot)edu>, PostgreSQL Mailing Lists <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Faster distinct query?
Date: 2021-09-22 20:49:29
Message-ID: CADyMnEzKD5t0-bOM4n7tor3CWka_oXN-BkrW=FxyqP8xrJ6+8w@mail.gmail.com
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[Timescale Dev Advocate here]
I realize this might not be the most accepted answer (could be interpreted
as trying to "sell" something), but feels like an opportunity to talk about
DISTINCT queries and opportunities. Because you have that index,
Timescale 2.3 added a "Skip Scan" query planner node that works on regular
BTree indexes (it doesn't have to be time-series/TimescaleDB Hypertable
data at all). In this case, your distinct query would likely run in a few
milliseconds based on the counts you mention (170 stations, 3 channels per
station), and then the outer aggregation would do the GROUP BY. So, you
**could** add the TimescaleDB extension to your database (or a copy of) and
give it a try. You don't actually need to use any TimescaleDB features
otherwise.

- A writeup of why this kind of DISTINCT query is slow in PostgreSQL
(for now) and what we did to overcome it:
https://blog.timescale.com/blog/how-we-made-distinct-queries-up-to-8000x-faster-on-postgresql/
- Plans for a similar feature in PostgreSQL proper that we'd totally
support but hasn't made forward progress yet:
https://commitfest.postgresql.org/19/1741/

Anyway, it might be worth a shot. HTH

Ryan B

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:27 PM David G. Johnston <
david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 1:21 PM Michael Lewis <mlewis(at)entrata(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> In the future, please share the plan returned by explain analyze, and
>> some data about how many rows in the involved tables,
>>
>
> I believe we consider it acceptable to link to an explain viewer, which is
> what the OP did. Reading explain output in email has its own challenges,
> and I'd rather have the website than a text attachment.
>
>
>> How does the below work? It should do a very simple index scan only, then
>> aggregate the relative few rows after the fact.
>>
>> select station, array_agg(distinct(channel)) as channels
>> FROM(
>> SELECT station,channel FROM data GROUP BY station,channel
>> ) AS sub
>> group by station;
>>
>
> Yeah, am pondering this too, though seems like the queries should be
> identical so the plan/execution should be the same either way.
>
>
>> If there is correlation between station & channel, then you might look at
>> creating a multivariate statistics object and analyzing the table so the
>> planner can make better choices
>>
>
> There is no where clause so I'm doubtful there is much to be gained going
> down this path. The Index-Only scan seems like an optimal way to obtain
> this data and the existing query already does that. The aggregation path
> might vary though it seems like that shouldn't be the case here.
>
> David J.
>

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