Re: BUG #14500: error message displays "schema dot relation" in double quotes all together

From: Vladimir Svedov <vodevsh(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-bugs(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-bugs(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: BUG #14500: error message displays "schema dot relation" in double quotes all together
Date: 2017-01-17 15:40:14
Message-ID: CADqDLE-5MtEfX7R-2aJgocdxWutBx4LBFTdx462_jLNXBBF-Cg@mail.gmail.com
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As David pointed I can use my line with error pointer for copy/paste ugly
names, not the error message.
Thank you for you time!

2017-01-17 15:35 GMT+00:00 Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>:

> "David G. Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:09 AM, <vodevsh(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >> I'm not sure if it's a bug or feature, but I find error message
> misleading.
> >> ERROR: relation [“schema_name.table_name”] does not exist gives an
> >> impression that schema name is part of relation name. Should not it be
> >> ERROR: relation [“schema name”].["table_name"] does not exist instead? I
> >> doubt it's a bug, because this message seems version not specific. But
> does
> >> not it look wrong?
>
> > More to the point, the double quotes are not part of the identifiers but
> > rather offset the item being named from the rest of the sentence
> fragment.
>
> Yes. In a translated message you might see something like
>
> Relation »schema_name.table_name« existiert nicht
>
> That is, the double quotes here are not SQL syntax but part of the human
> language that the error message is written in. It's unfortunate in this
> context that SQL's identifier quoting character is the same as we use in
> English, because it invites confusion like the OP's. But the only way
> to fix that would be to go over to non-ASCII quoting characters (curly
> quotes, say) in the English message texts, and that would create tons of
> practical problems. Plus, if you didn't look closely enough to see the
> difference between curly quotes and plain double quotes, you'd still
> be confused.
>
> regards, tom lane
>

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