Re: Is Oracle using Gitlab Failure against PostgreSQL?

From: Sameer Kumar <sameer(dot)kumar(at)ashnik(dot)com>
To: Wei Shan <weishan(dot)ang(at)gmail(dot)com>, Martín Marqués <martin(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Gunnar Nick Bluth <gunnar(dot)bluth(dot)extern(at)elster(dot)de>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Is Oracle using Gitlab Failure against PostgreSQL?
Date: 2017-02-10 19:12:32
Message-ID: CADp-Sm4THk_VS8b5b4Au3_tBLY1oL=+-Woc-H96xj36a09r7Lg@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 7:25 PM Wei Shan <weishan(dot)ang(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> Funny enough, the admin of the group, who was the thread starter, closed
> the thread after his final response.
>

I know. I guess my final comment made him see some light (and realize that
it's not working)-

"
..... Secondly, you have missed the point completely (despite it being
pointed out by so many on this post) - The failure was not because of the
database but the underlying infra and redundancy of provided by infra.
Having said that, I can see the purpose of this post is more to have a
negative marketing and less to have an open debate....
"
He just wanted to make a final comment (and a conclusive one). Clearly
depicts how open he or the group is towards comments/suggestions!

That is one thing I respect about community. Uber wrote a blog on why they
moved on from Postgres and we had community leader jumping in at the
opportunity to make Postgres better. In other user groups people can not
even take straight facts!

>
> On 10 February 2017 at 11:22, Martín Marqués <martin(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
> El 10/02/17 a las 05:01, Gunnar "Nick" Bluth escribió:
> >
> >> Question is, is there anything Postgres can really learn from this
> failure?
> >
> > Maybe re-order the docs? From what they made public, it seemed they
> > either started backing up with a 7.x or early 8.x release and never
> > adjusted the procedure to the new possibilities (LVM snapshots?!?
> > Really?!?) or they stopped reading too early... :/
>
> Simon Riggs wrote a nice blog after the incident, which IMO details the
> flaws in the incident, with the conclusion that postgres wasn't in fault
> there.
>
> http://blog.2ndquadrant.com/dataloss-at-gitlab/
>
> I don't think the issue they had has anything to do with how the
> documentation is organized. This was just bad system administration
> policies (you can see a bunch of changes they did after the incident
> which aim at preventing from happening again).
>
> In particular, the same problem would have happened with any database
> engine, including Oracle. (I'm taking about the administrator deleting
> all the data files)
>
> Regards,
>
> --
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