Re: UUID v7

From: Andrew Alsup <bluesbreaker(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Sergey Prokhorenko <sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au>
Cc: Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>, Daniel Verite <daniel(at)manitou-mail(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl>, Przemysław Sztoch <przemyslaw(at)sztoch(dot)pl>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Aleksander Alekseev <aleksander(at)timescale(dot)com>, Pgsql-Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Mat Arye <mat(at)timescaledb(dot)com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Junwang Zhao <zhjwpku(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stepan Neretin <sncfmgg(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: UUID v7
Date: 2025-02-17 01:21:17
Message-ID: CADOZ7s46biM1bGh=fEknuX4-p7xVPYJ==T_50TdchUcGP9MGLg@mail.gmail.com
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Sergey,

I took a look at your patch for chapter 9.14 "UUID Functions" docs page.
You've added some really good content here. I think section 9.14.4.
"Deciding Whether and Which UUID to Use" would be better suited for Chapter
8: "Data Types" -- specifically, 8.12. "UUID Type", since the content seems
to deal more with the UUID data type than the UUID functions.

Best regards,
Andy A.

On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 8:13 PM Sergey Prokhorenko <
sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:

> On Wednesday 5 February 2025 at 01:07:02 am GMT+3, Masahiko Sawada <
> sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 11:41 AM Sergey Prokhorenko
> <sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
> >
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > I would like to present for discussion my attached new draft
> documentation on UUID functions (Section 9.14. UUID Functions), which
> replaces the previously proposed draft at
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/functions-uuid.html. I have
> preserved and significantly supplemented the text that was there.
> >
> > I have the following goals:
> >
> > 1. State that from now on, the function uuidv7(), rather than
> autoincrement, is the default choice for generating primary keys
> >
> > 2. Describe the advantages of uuidv7() over autoincrement and uuidv4()
> >
> > 3. Refute the often-cited imaginary disadvantages of UUIDv7 compared to
> autoincrement, such as:
> >
> > - Lower performance (see the refutation in the article "UUID
> Benchmark War" https://ardentperf.com/2024/02/03/uuid-benchmark-war/)
> >
> > - Disclosure of date and time of record creation in the table (in
> reality, the timestamp offset parameter distorts this information)
> >
> > 4. Confirm the fault tolerance of the uuidv7() function in all possible
> critical situations, namely:
> >
> > - System clock failure
> >
> > - Receiving an invalid value of the offset argument, which would
> result in a timestamp overflow or a negative timestamp
> >
>
> Thank you for the proposal. Could you share the proposed document as a
> .diff or .patch file? That would be easier to review the updates.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> --
> Masahiko Sawada
> Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I have attached a file changed.diff containing my proposed changes to the
> documentation on UUID functions (Section 9.14. UUID Functions). The text
> of the changes in this file is updated, and it is slightly different from
> the previously submitted text.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sergey Prokhorenko
> sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au
>
>
>
>
>

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  • Re: UUID v7 at 2025-02-08 21:56:27 from Sergey Prokhorenko

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  • Re: UUID v7 at 2025-02-17 02:14:11 from David G. Johnston
  • Re: UUID v7 at 2025-02-17 19:56:58 from Sergey Prokhorenko

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