Re: Add contrib/pg_logicalsnapinspect

From: Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Add contrib/pg_logicalsnapinspect
Date: 2025-03-07 20:09:35
Message-ID: CAD21AoD2zR_QZE7iDWWjNwHVn6TDi-mJzjvjpxYmTdKBMh2oNQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 2:42 AM Bertrand Drouvot
<bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 10:26:23AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 3:19 AM Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 4:05 AM Bertrand Drouvot
> > > <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 02:42:15PM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 12:47 PM Bertrand Drouvot
> > > > > <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Agree, PFA a patch doing so.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be better if you could add a few comments atop the
> > > > > permutation line to explain the working of the test.
> > > >
> > > > yeah makes sense. Done in the attached, and bonus point I realized that the
> > > > test could be simplified (so, removing useless steps in passing).
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for the patch.
> > >
> > > The new simplified test case can be pretty-formatted as:
> > >
> > > init
> > > begin
> > > savepoint
> > > truncate
> > > checkpoint-1
> > > get_changes-1
> > > commit
> > > checkpoint-2
> > > get_changes-2
> > > info_catchange check
> > > info_committed check
> > > meta check
>
> Yes.
>
> > > IIUC if another checkpoint happens between get_change-2 and the
> > > subsequent checks, the first snapshot would be removed during the
> > > checkpoint, resulting in a test failure.
>
> Good catch! Yeah you're right, thanks!
>
> > I think we could check the
> > > snapshot files while one transaction keeps open. The more simplified
> > > test case would be:
> > >
> > > init
> > > begin
> > > savepoint
> > > insert(cat-change)
> > > begin
> > > insert(cat-change)
> > > commit
> > > checkpoint
> > > get_changes
> > > info_catchange check
> > > info_committed check
> > > meta check
> > > commit
> > >
> > > In this test case, we would have at least one serialized snapshot that
> > > has both cat-changes and committed txns. What do you think?
>
> Indeed, I think that would prevent snapshots to be removed.
>
> The attached ends up doing:
>
> init
> begin
> savepoint
> truncate table1
> create table table2
> checkpoint
> get_changes
> info check
> meta check
> commit
>
> As the 2 ongoing catalog changes and the committed catalog change are part of the
> same snapshot, then I grouped the catchanges and committed changes checks in the
> same "info check".
>
> > Your proposed change in the test sounds better than what we have now
> > but I think we should also avoid autovacuum to perform analyze as that
> > may add additional counts. For test_decoding, we keep
> > autovacuum_naptime = 1d in logical.conf file, we can either use the
> > same here or simply keep autovacuum off.
>
> When writing the attached, I initially added extra paranoia in the tests by
> using ">=", does that also address your autovacuum concern?
>

Thank you for updating the patch. It looks mostly good to me. I've
made some cosmetic changes and attached the updated version.

Regards,

--
Masahiko Sawada
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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