Re: Fix premature xmin advancement during fast forward decoding

From: Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Fix premature xmin advancement during fast forward decoding
Date: 2025-04-25 18:30:32
Message-ID: CAD21AoBY7KoiJZW-dOoMoS0WwBtDfw_g+5rw1DoyqhoJc7nuWA@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:42 AM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:46 AM Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > What I'm concerned about is the back branches. With this approach all
> > back branches will have such degradations and it doesn't make sense to
> > me to optimize SnapBuildCommitTxn() codes in back branches.
> >
>
> One possibility could be that instead of maintaining an entire
> snapshot in fast_forward mode, we can maintain snapshot's xmin in each
> ReorderBufferTXN. But then also, how would we get the minimum
> txns_by_base_snapshot_lsn as we are getting now in
> ReorderBufferGetOldestXmin? I think we need to traverse the entire
> list of txns to get it in fast_forward mode but that may not show up
> because it will not be done for each transaction. We can try such a
> thing, but it won't be clean to have fast_forward specific code and
> also it would be better to add such things only for HEAD.

Agreed.

> Can you think of any better ideas?

No idea. Hmm, there seems no reasonable way to fix this issue for back
branches. I consented to the view that these costs were something that
we should have paid from the beginning.

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada
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