From: | Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: POC: enable logical decoding when wal_level = 'replica' without a server restart |
Date: | 2025-01-13 21:45:15 |
Message-ID: | CAD21AoBWvdA5SU2fFaUXsGqC=_NHqM+o2eDHAW01WaGVHYDOuQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 1:31 AM Ashutosh Bapat
<ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > I felt that the only disadvantage with this approach is that we
> > currently wait for all in-progress transactions to complete before
> > enabling logical decoding. If a long-running transaction exists and
> > the session enabling logical decoding fails—due to factors like
> > statement_timeout, transaction_timeout,
> > idle_in_transaction_session_timeout, idle_session_timeout, or any
> > other failure. This would require restarting the wait. During this
> > time, there's a risk that a new long-running transaction could start,
> > further delaying the process. Probably this could be solved if the
> > waiting is done from any of the background processes through
> > PGC_SIGHUP. While this type of failure is likely rare, I’m unsure
> > whether we should consider this scenario.
>
> A related question: While the operation is waiting for already running
> transactions to end, the backends whose transactions have finished may
> start new transactions. When we switch WAL from 'replica' to
> 'logical', there may be some transactions running. Will this lead to
> WAL stream with mixes WAL records - some with logical information and
> some without?
Yes. There could be mixed WAL records until all running transactions complete.
> Do we need to adjust logical decoding to tackle this
> situation? Is there a chance that some WAL from same transaction have
> logical information and some do not?
In the current approach, we first enable logical info WAL-logging to
let newly started transactions do logical info WAL-logging, then allow
the logical decoding only after all running transactions complete.
Therefore, at the time when we allow the logical decoding, all WAL
records are written with logical information.
Regards,
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Masahiko Sawada
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
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