Re: UUID v7

From: Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Andrey M(dot) Borodin" <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>
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Subject: Re: UUID v7
Date: 2024-11-19 19:06:35
Message-ID: CAD21AoBTPXU5s6WZyANZdwdvfRNjUHjFxWD1xnvUG9gJeQDfGg@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 9:45 AM Andrey M. Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> wrote:
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> > On 19 Nov 2024, at 14:31, Andrey M. Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> wrote:
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> > Done.
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> Here's v33 intact + one more patch to add 2 bits of entropy on MacOS (to compensate lack of nanoseconds).
> What do you think?
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Thank you for updating the patch!

I've reviewed the v33 patch and made some changes mostly for cosmetic
things. Please review it to see if we accept these changes.

I have one question about the additional patch:

+#if defined(__darwin__)
+ /*
+ * On MacOS real time is truncted to microseconds. Thus, 2 least
+ * significant bits of increased_clock_precision are neither random
+ * (CSPRNG), nor time-dependent (in a sense - truly random). These 2 bits
+ * are dependent on other time-specific bits, thus they do not contribute
+ * to uniqueness. To make these bit random we mix in two bits from CSPRNG.
+ */
+ uuid->data[7] = uuid->data[7] ^ (uuid->data[8] >> 6);
+#endif

I thought that the whole 12 bits in "rand_a" is actually
time-dependent since we store 1/4096 fraction of sub-milliseconds. Am
I missing something?

Regards,

--
Masahiko Sawada
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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