Re: UUID v7

From: Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>
Cc: Daniel Verite <daniel(at)manitou-mail(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl>, Sergey Prokhorenko <sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au>, Przemysław Sztoch <przemyslaw(at)sztoch(dot)pl>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Aleksander Alekseev <aleksander(at)timescale(dot)com>, Pgsql-Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Mat Arye <mat(at)timescaledb(dot)com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Junwang Zhao <zhjwpku(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stepan Neretin <sncfmgg(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: UUID v7
Date: 2025-01-30 19:54:59
Message-ID: CAD21AoB5Fo6YcPpLwyYRw1RG85iQ8Lj=qnrip1c6jUpStfK+qw@mail.gmail.com
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-hackers

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:59 AM Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 12 Dec 2024, at 23:08, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > Pushed
>
> Hi Masahiko!
>
> I’ve found some inconsistency in handling of overflow. I’m not sure we should handle it, but anyway.

Thank you for the report!

>
> postgres=# select x,
> uuid_extract_timestamp(uuidv7((x::text || ' year'::text)::interval)),
> (x::text || ' year'::text)::interval
> from generate_series(237,238) x;;
> x | uuid_extract_timestamp | interval
> -----+-----------------------------+-----------
> 237 | 2262-01-30 13:43:23.737+05 | 237 years
> 238 | 10598-02-10 19:41:13.736+05 | 238 years
> (2 rows)
>
> The thing is per RFC we represent time as number of nanoseconds since UNIX epoch. And we use int64, which will overflow in year 2262. I sincerely wish us to see this great year.
> We can have a couple more centuries if we resort to unsigned int 64.
>
> But it would be great to make our code work until
>
> postgres=# select uuid_extract_timestamp('FFFFFFFF-FFFF-7FFF-bFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF');
> uuid_extract_timestamp
> -----------------------------
> 10889-08-02 10:31:50.655+05
> (1 row)
>
> And using uint64 won’t help us.

I don't think using uint64 instead of int64 for nanoseconds doesn't
resolve the problem. We will not be able to shift the timestamp for a
date before 1970/1/1.

> Or, perhaps, carry this extra 10 bits in the extra argument of generate_uuidv7()?

I like this idea. Would you like to write a patch, or shall I?

Regards,

--
Masahiko Sawada
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

In response to

  • Re: UUID v7 at 2025-01-30 08:59:43 from Andrey Borodin

Browse pgsql-hackers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Pavel Borisov 2025-01-30 20:32:03 Re: Using Expanded Objects other than Arrays from plpgsql
Previous Message Tom Lane 2025-01-30 18:27:32 Re: JIT: The nullness of casetest.value can be determined at the JIT compile time.