From: | Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> |
Cc: | Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Zheng Li <zhengli10(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, rajesh singarapu <rajesh(dot)rs0541(at)gmail(dot)com>, Ajin Cherian <itsajin(at)gmail(dot)com>, Hou, Zhijie/侯 志杰 <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Support logical replication of DDLs |
Date: | 2022-05-11 07:38:56 |
Message-ID: | CAD21AoAX_xiO03hXSY2QfbcKT0XiUvtnzTjy+NRJ_EcgBa5B3A@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 6:05 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> wrote:
>
> On 2022-May-08, Dilip Kumar wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 9:38 AM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> > > I agree that it adds to our maintainability effort, like every time we
> > > enhance any DDL or add a new DDL that needs to be replicated, we
> > > probably need to change the deparsing code. But OTOH this approach
> > > seems to provide better flexibility. So, in the long run, maybe the
> > > effort is worthwhile. I am not completely sure at this stage which
> > > approach is better but I thought it is worth evaluating this approach
> > > as Alvaro and Robert seem to prefer this idea.
> >
> > +1, IMHO with deparsing logic it would be easy to handle the mixed DDL
> > commands like ALTER TABLE REWRITE. But the only thing is that we will
> > have to write the deparsing code for all the utility commands so there
> > will be a huge amount of new code to maintain.
>
> Actually, the largest stumbling block on this, IMO, is having a good
> mechanism to verify that all DDLs are supported. The deparsing code
> itself is typically not very bad, as long as we have a sure way to twist
> every contributor's hand into writing it, which is what an automated
> test mechanism would give us.
Agreed.
>
> The code in test_ddl_deparse is a pretty lame start, not nearly good
> enough by a thousand miles. My real intention was to have a test
> harness that would first run a special SQL script to install DDL
> capture, then run all the regular src/test/regress scripts, and then at
> the end ensure that all the DDL scripts were properly reproduced -- for
> example transmit them to another database, replay them there, and dump
> both databases and compare them. However, there were challenges which I
> no longer remember and we were unable to complete this, and we are where
> we are.
I think the regression test suite improvements in these few years make
it easier to implement such regression tests in order to check not
only the existing commands but also future changes. I'll try it if no
one is working on it, and let us see if there are challenges.
Regards,
--
Masahiko Sawada
EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com/
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