From: | Benjamin Scherrey <scherrey(at)proteus-tech(dot)com> |
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To: | Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> |
Cc: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Birmingham City Council chose Oracle, went broke because of it ;) |
Date: | 2023-09-07 08:50:44 |
Message-ID: | CACo3ShgN-kG75PmqcxVisBczeNke5qW0jycb+E04Hxq1GUFpNw@mail.gmail.com |
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Well a) the costs of the system (still undelivered) is 4x the initial
contract ; and b) they've determined that the ERP was incapable of
performing the functions of the contract because it orientation for
manufacturing rather than HR. So not even Oracle has a competing product!
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 4:28 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 09:23, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 1:49 AM Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Heh Heh Heh. This is pretty funny:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/05/birmingham_city_council_oracle/
>> >
>> > "Birmingham City Council, the largest local authority in Europe, has
>> > declared itself in financial distress after troubled Oracle project
>> > costs ballooned from £20 million to around £100 million ($125.5
>> > million)."
>> >
>> > Wonder if they'll make the smart choice next time around, and choose PG
>> > + a decent vendor instead? :)
>>
>> In fairness, that project is about Oracle Fusion, not the database. So
>> PG doesn't have a competing product. There are opensource ERP products
>> out there, but I'm not sure they're advanced enough to handle
>> something like that...
>>
>
> Indeed. It also only amounts for a fraction of the council's liabilities.
> The vast majority is from an equal pay judgement against them, which iirc,
> totals a couple of billion pounds (of which they've paid off over half in
> the last decade I believe).
>
> So, yeah, the Oracle thing is a massive screw up. But it's not what caused
> the majority of their problems.
>
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