Re: Pgday italy

From: Lætitia Avrot <laetitia(dot)avrot(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: pgsql-women(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Pgday italy
Date: 2019-04-06 13:45:57
Message-ID: CAB_COdg4URHD8WzYC3TbyQmnKc0hFxA+K8AzGWHgZnU9rkWc3w@mail.gmail.com
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-women

Hi,

I'm sorry to bother you, but I really could do with some help with the
flyer content (I can put that in form).

For now here's what I have:

*What you can do to help if you're a man:*

1.
*Be open with other men about your commitment to make the community more
inclusive and invite them to join. *
2.
*Mentor and/or sponsor emerging women in the community. *
3. *Speak up if you observe gender bias. Report CoC violations.*
4. *Help with Postgres Women organization.*
5. *Make women feel welcome in the community.*

*What you can do if you're a woman:*

1. *Mentor and/or sponsor emerging women in the community.*
2. *Attend to conf talk events and to social events afterwards.*
3. *Speak to conf talk events and encourage other women to do so.*
4. *Speak up if you observe gender bias. Report CoC violations.*
5. *Help with Postgres Women organization.*

And for the other side (inclusive vocabulary):

*Bossy: This term has been skewed to be a negative term to describe a woman
that is direct and communicates expectations.*

*Guys: Using “guys” to address all people is gendered languages that may
insinuate that men are the preferred gender at your organization. Instead,
use gender-neutral language such as; folks, people, you all, y’all, and
teammates.*

*Girl/Girls: For anyone over 18 years old, woman or women is a better
choice.*

*Females: To many English speakers, “females” sounds like a scientific
designation one would use for animals or plants. Try “women” instead.*

*Housekeeping: In reference to office work, this language can feel
gendered. Suggested alternative: maintenance, cleanup*

*Ladies/gals: Terms like “ladies”, “gals” or others can feel patronizing to
some. Try women instead, or “folks” or “people” for mixed-gender groups.*

*Man: As a synonym for work — as in “man hours,” “man the inbox,” “man the
conference booth,” — this is unnecessarily gendered language. Try using
work instead. More inclusive: Folks, people, you all, y’all, teammatesMr
and Mrs: In English, Mr. is used for all men. However, in the past, women
were either ‘Mrs.’ or ‘Miss’ depending on whether they were married. Now,
‘Ms.’ is used for all women. ‘Ms.’ reflects that it is not important to
know whether a woman is married or not. *

*They: Using they/them to indicate a single, gender neutral person is now
commonly accepted. *

Do you have other ideas ?

I need to make the order quickly, so I really could do with your help!

Cheers,

Lætitia

Le jeu. 4 avr. 2019 à 09:09, Lætitia Avrot <laetitia(dot)avrot(at)gmail(dot)com> a
écrit :

> Hello Postgres Women,
>
> I have excellent news: I asked PostgreSQL Europe for money to buy flyers,
> stickers and business cards for Postgres Women (and PGDay Italy) and they
> say yes, as long as those items are used in Europe only (because PostgreSQL
> Europe can't provide anything outside Europe).
>
> So now, I think I could do with some help about the flyers (I had a rate
> for two sides printing). In my mind,flyers would be 105x297mm (that's half
> a portrait A4 sheet). I thought we could have on one side the what you can
> do if your a man/woman and the inclusive glossary on the other, what do you
> think ?
>
> For the stickers, I think we could simply have the logo.
>
> For the business cards, I designed both sides you'll find enclosed (orange
> rectangle is where the cards will be cut). Any suggestions ?
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> Lætitia
>
> Le lun. 25 mars 2019 à 22:48, Boriss Mejias <bmejias(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl> a
> écrit :
>
>> gülçin yıldırım wrote on 25.03.19 16:44:
>> > Since there is no objection and Ilaria is willing to do the booth duty
>> (and her
>> > travel expenses are covered) we can give the first free ticket to her.
>> >
>> > I saw one more women interested in the free tickets on Twitter. Has she
>> > contacted us yet? Is she willing to help out Ilaria and Boriss at the
>> booth?
>>
>> Just to clarify, I'm not going to PgDay Italy. Although I have been
>> thinking
>> about ideas for the flyers and I have two:
>>
>> 1. Based on the lightning talk given by Renee and Louise at Nordic PgDay,
>> there
>> could be a flyer with a list of things to do "if you are a woman" AND "if
>> you
>> are a man". Like that, we, as men, can also understand the problem.
>>
>> 2. "Gender Neutral Vocabulary Cheat Sheet". This would be really useful.
>> For
>> instance, I didn't know that saying "Hello guys" wasn't gender neutral.
>> My
>> female English teacher said it was plural for people, both men and women.
>> In
>> doubt, I even asked once to two girls from the USA whether I could say
>> "hello
>> guys" to them, and they say it was OK. Anyway, this was at the beginning
>> of the
>> century.... but still, sometimes we use non-neutral vocabulary because of
>> ignorance, not explicitly, so, having a flyer with a list of words to
>> avoid and
>> words to use instead would be useful. Note that it's not enough with
>> sentences
>> like: "don't say this..." The flyer needs to provide a correct
>> alternative that
>> is gender neutral. It shouldn't be a flyer to just ban words, but also to
>> propose solutions.
>>
>> That's what I could come up with. I hope it helps.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Boriss
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Gülçin
>> >
>> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:40, Lætitia Avrot <laetitia(dot)avrot(at)gmail(dot)com
>> > <mailto:laetitia(dot)avrot(at)gmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > +1 to give Illaria a ticket.
>> >
>> > Le sam. 23 mars 2019 à 12:47, gülçin yıldırım <
>> yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com
>> > <mailto:yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com>> a écrit :
>> >
>> > As far as I know (group needs to confirm this), the conference
>> gave us 5
>> > free tickets, so you can have one of them. You are the perfect
>> candidate
>> > for the booth as well! Thank you for willing to do it <3 If you
>> are
>> > worried about travel expenses I can personally cover your train
>> trip.
>> > Just let me know if it helps you to come there.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Gülçin
>> >
>> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 12:02, Ilaria <
>> ilaria(dot)battiston(at)gmail(dot)com
>> > <mailto:ilaria(dot)battiston(at)gmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good morning,
>> >
>> > I’m an Italian postgres fan and I would love to be at the
>> booth, I
>> > can speak both Italian and English so that would be a plus.
>> >
>> > I just checked the trains from my city (Milan) to Bologna
>> and
>> > they’re about 30€ for a round trip on the 17th, so I should
>> be able
>> > to attend (I’m a little tight on money, so I can’t give you
>> 100%
>> > availability yet).
>> >
>> > I’m a student, so purchasing an ordinary ticket would be
>> more
>> > expensive - maybe you can give me that one? Not sure how it
>> works.
>> >
>> > Let me know,
>> > Ilaria
>> >
>> > Am 23.03.2019 um 11:20 schrieb gülçin yıldırım
>> > <yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com <mailto:
>> yildirim(dot)gulcin88(at)gmail(dot)com>>:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> If we will give 5 free tickets perhaps we can ask those
>> ladies to
>> >> do some booth duty as well, that can be our requirement for
>> >> ticket. We can decide what sort of tasks they should
>> perform
>> >> there, should not be anything hard even at the entry level.
>> >>
>> >> If there will be no women at the booth, I would vote for
>> not to
>> >> open the booth at first place.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Gülçin
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 10:43, Boriss Mejias <
>> bmejias(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl
>> >> <mailto:bmejias(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Great news Lætitia,
>> >>
>> >> Just one correction, the event is on the 17th of May.
>> >>
>> >> I hope you can find some women to be at the booth.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Boriss
>> >>
>> >> Lætitia Avrot wrote on 23.03.19 10:36:
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > Pgday Italy organizers have is a booth and 5 free
>> tickets.
>> >> >
>> >> > This event will take place the 19th of May in
>> Bologna.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, first, we need to give away the 5 free
>> tickets, so if
>> >> you or a woman you
>> >> > know is interested, just reply to me and I'll make
>> sure
>> >> you'll have one.
>> >> >
>> >> > Then, unfortunately, I won't be able to be there.
>> I have a
>> >> friend that could
>> >> > be at the desk but he's a man and I'm concerned that
>> a
>> >> postgres women booth with
>> >> > only a man could send the wrong message... Is any
>> woman
>> >> there available for that
>> >> > event?
>> >> >
>> >> > Last but not least, what do we want to have in the
>> postgres
>> >> women booth? Do we
>> >> > want to give away stickers? Do we want to print some
>> flyers?
>> >> Do we want to
>> >> > create awesome tee-shirts to sell (but it would mean
>> for us
>> >> to manage money)? Do
>> >> > we want to print and give away a list of postgres
>> women
>> >> public speakers? (please
>> >> > add your ideas here)
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Lætitia Avrot
>> >>
>>
>>
>
> --
> *Think! Do you really need to print this email ? *
> *There is no Planet B.*
>

--
*Paper doesn’t grow on trees. Please print responsibly.*

In response to

Responses

Browse pgsql-women by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Dian Fay 2019-04-06 16:58:15 Re: Pgday italy
Previous Message Lætitia Avrot 2019-04-04 07:09:04 Re: Pgday italy