Re: Intermittent hangs with 9.2

From: David Whittaker <dave(at)iradix(dot)com>
To: Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Performance <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Intermittent hangs with 9.2
Date: 2013-09-13 15:05:24
Message-ID: CABXnLXSrM0B6SG0dnTLa5Oa+J69AwY5NyVfdypnc9CJyuEu86A@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, David Whittaker <dave(at)iradix(dot)com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We lowered shared_buffers to 8G and increased effective_cache_size
> > accordingly. So far, we haven't seen any issues since the adjustment.
> The
> > issues have come and gone in the past, so I'm not convinced it won't
> crop up
> > again, but I think the best course is to wait a week or so and see how
> > things work out before we make any other changes.
> >
> > Thank you all for your help, and if the problem does reoccur, we'll look
> > into the other options suggested, like using a patched postmaster and
> > compiling for perf -g.
> >
> > Thanks again, I really appreciate the feedback from everyone.
>
> Interesting -- please respond with a follow up if/when you feel
> satisfied the problem has gone away. Andres was right; I initially
> mis-diagnosed the problem (there is another issue I'm chasing that has
> a similar performance presentation but originates from a different
> area of the code).
>
> That said, if reducing shared_buffers made *your* problem go away as
> well, then this more evidence that we have an underlying contention
> mechanic that is somehow influenced by the setting. Speaking frankly,
> under certain workloads we seem to have contention issues in the
> general area of the buffer system. I'm thinking (guessing) that the
> problems is usage_count is getting incremented faster than the buffers
> are getting cleared out which is then causing the sweeper to spend
> more and more time examining hotly contended buffers. This may make
> no sense in the context of your issue; I haven't looked at the code
> yet. Also, I've been unable to cause this to happen in simulated
> testing. But I'm suspicious (and dollars to doughnuts '0x347ba9' is
> spinlock related).
>
> Anyways, thanks for the report and (hopefully) the follow up.
>
> merlin
>

You guys have taken the time to help me through this, following up is the
least I can do. So far we're still looking good.

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