Re: 9.3 Beta 1 Coming Soon!

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
> Andres,
>
>> We had CREATE FOREIGN DATA WRAPPER without it doing much and added stuff
>
> ... and we promoted it when it was introduced.
>
>> I think that will lead to a future where we can't commit intermediate
>> states of work since we now it will be used for PR regardless of its
>> state. I am pretty sure several people would have voiced loud(er)
>> objections for matviews to be commited if they would have known the end
>> result of it being rather incomplete and promoted anyway. And that will
>> hurt postgres.
>

That seems like a bit of a straw man; partial support for event
triggers was committed, there have been objections raised to it's
useful and inclusion as PR, and so we've backed away from it.

> I simply don't agree that the matview feature, as it exists in 9.3, is
> sucky and not worth talking about. As I have said before, I think the
> feature we have is useful now even if it's not as useful as it will be
> later.
>
> We can promote a feature, but still mention its limitations and ongoing
> work. We've done that plenty of times before.
>

Maybe another path to take is to bundle all of the view related
features together:

"Postgres developers and users believe that quality view support is an
important toolset for any database, and Postgres 9.3 includes several
improvements to it's view support. Enhancements included in this
release include the ability to create recursive views, to create
automatically updateable views, and limited support for built in
materialized views."

Robert Treat
conjecture: xzilla.net
consulting: omniti.com