Re: Unclear EOL

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Unclear EOL
Date: 2018-09-18 15:18:22
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 7:51 PM, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
wrote:

> On 9/11/18 10:52 AM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> > On 9/11/18 10:39 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> * Jonathan S. Katz (jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org) wrote:
> >>> I think we are saying similar things though...the content of the page
> >>> needs some hierarchical restructuring, and yes, I'm convinced of some
> >>> language cleanups as well.
> >>>
> >>> To make it more tangible, I'm happy to propose a patch in a few.
> >>
> >> The point I was getting at is that we don't just need a patch here- our
> >> current EOL policy is really quite vague and confusing. Trying to
> >> reword that confusing and vague policy doesn't change that it's
> >> confusing and vague- to deal with that, we need to actually change the
> >> policy, which is what I'm advocating for here.
> >
> > We're saying the same thing. I just wanted to have something in writing
> > so it's more tangible and easier to discuss.
>
> Please see attached patch the includes the wording updates.
>

+The PostgreSQL Global Development Group releases a new major version
containing
+new features about once a year. Each major version receives bug fixes and,
if
+need be, <a href="/support/security/">security</a> fixes that are released
every three months in what we call a
+"minor release." For more information on the minor release schedule, you
can
+view the <a href="/developer/roadmap/">minor release roadmap</a>.

That needs to be "at least every three months". We sometimes release more
often.

>
> The one thing that is not included is making "EOL Month" => "Expected
> Last Release" - currently this is set dynamically by "core.Version.eoldate"
>
> AFAICT this is only used in one place, on this page, and perhaps we can
> re-purpose it to reflect "Expected Last Release"
>

Yes, that's the only thing it's used for. So you should be able to keep
using that one, just stop truncating the output to month level in the
template.

//Magnus

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