Re: A change in the Debian install

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, rob stone <floriparob(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: A change in the Debian install
Date: 2017-04-06 15:04:03
Message-ID: CABUevEzkTLFSFZvCVsk07oEVgSZmWo9kPaGiJtrONYjQrH5PLw@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> * Tom Lane (tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us) wrote:
> > (But ... these statements are based on an assumption of out-of-the-
> > box Postgres behavior. I would not exactly put it past the Debian
> > packagers to have decided to change this for reasons of their own,
> > and their track record of telling us about such decisions is many
> > miles south of abysmal. So you might look at whatever patches
> > are in the Debian package to see if there's anything touching
> > pgstat.c's socket-setup logic.)
>
> I don't believe this is really a fair assessment. Maybe at some point
> in the distant past, but not today. Christoph is regularly on this list
> contributing to threads regarding packaging, submitting patches of his
> own for improvements to PG, and the patches currently included in the
> Debian distribution, at least mostly, are for things which really should
> be possible to do with configure options, but which we don't provide
> today, or things we should just be handling already.
>

+1. While this may have been true in a *very* distant past, it's certainly
not anymore. So let's try to avoid spreading disinformation about that.

And FWIW, the RPM distributions have about the same number of patches...

> 51-default-sockets-in-var.patch
> Use /var/run/postgresql/ for the DEFAULT_PGSOCKET_DIR. We really
> should allow this to be changed in configure.
>

This looks exactly like something the RPMs want as well, so we should
definitely look at providing that upstream.

I'll start a discussion with Christoph on if we might, already, be able
> to remove some of these, and where we might be able to make upstream
> changes to remove the need for others.
>

That'd be useful. I think you should also include Devrim to figure out what
things would actually make *both* sides happier.

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Magnus Hagander
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