Re: Release note bloat is getting out of hand

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Release note bloat is getting out of hand
Date: 2015-02-03 14:53:28
Message-ID: CABUevEz9ktW=4xJaME=T5O0Zttk=oFYb-9_w_QNDsSjSbKqMJQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >>> So I'm bemused by Robert's insistence that he wants that format to
> support
> >>> searches. As I said, I find it far more convenient to search the
> output
> >>> of "git log" and/or src/tools/git_changelog --- I keep text files of
> those
> >>> around for exactly that purpose.
> >
> >> I normally search in one of two ways. Sometimes a grep the sgml;
> >> other times, I go to, say,
> >> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/release-9-4.html and then
> >> edit the URL to take me back to 9.3, 9.2, 9.1, etc. It's true that
> >> 'git log' is often the place to go searching for stuff, but there are
> >> times when it's easier to find out what release introduced a feature
> >> by looking at the release notes, and it's certainly more useful if you
> >> want to send a link to someone who is not git-aware illustrating the
> >> results of your search.
> >
> >> Well, maybe I'm the only one who is doing this and it's not worth
> >> worrying about it just for me. But I do it, all the same.
> >
> > I'm not out to take away a feature you need. I'm just wondering why it
> > has to be supported in exactly the way it's done now. Wouldn't a
> > separately maintained release-notes-only document serve the purpose fine?
>
> Well, I'd like to have all the release notes on the web site as they
> are now, and I'd like to have all the SGML in the build tree as it is
> now. If someone wants to create a make docs-fast target that omits
> older release notes, that's obviously not a problem. What I don't
> want to do is have information that is easily available now (put the
> right two digits into the URL bar and you are done) suddenly require
> more thought to get at (OK, so back through 9.0 is on the web site,
> and then there's this other place you can go to get the older stuff,
> if you can remember where it is).
>
>
Not sure how feasible that it through build targets, but perhaps we could
also include it in the HTML docs for the website per above, but skip it in
the PDFs, which would make them a *lot* easier to deal with I bet.

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