Re: PQgetssl() and alternative SSL implementations

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PQgetssl() and alternative SSL implementations
Date: 2014-08-19 19:16:44
Message-ID: CABUevEy03OvP3N3wBRVP7BcmwcHf=Qi6Crb2MHo4dVmG--ZnVg@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> writes:
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>> I have a hard time believing that something like this will really
>>> satisfy anyone. Why not just add PQgetSchannelHandleOrWhatever() and
>>> call it good? We can try to be incredibly thorough in exposing the
>>> information people want and we will still inevitably miss something
>>> that someone cares about; worse, we'll spend an awful lot of time and
>>> energy along the way.
>
>> Well, for one you push the full burden onto the application.
>
> Robert's got a point though: there is always going to be somebody who
> wants something we fail to expose. It's better to be able to say "well,
> you can do PQgetssl and then munge it for yourself" than to have to say
> "sorry, you're screwed". So if we're going to define PQgetssl as
> returning NULL when you're not using OpenSSL, I don't see why we
> shouldn't expose a similarly-defined PQgetXXX for each other underlying
> implementation we support. There will not be that many of 'em, and
> I suspect the people with very specific needs will not care about more
> than one underlying library anyway.
>
> This does not say that we shouldn't also try to have some
> library-independent functionality for interrogating certificate state
> etc. Just that having an escape hatch isn't a bad thing.

I do agree tha thaving both would be useful. We could have something like
int PQgetSSLstruct(void **sslstruct)

which returns the type of struct. Then it's up to the application to
know if it can handle it. For those apps that need a *lot*. But the
basic attributes - something like the list from apache - should be
retrievable in a library independent way.

--
Magnus Hagander
Me: http://www.hagander.net/
Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/

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