Re: Shorter archive URLs

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:30 PM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2019-07-14 18:46:28 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 6:35 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > > Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> writes:
> > > > This means that instead of being:
> > > >
> > >
> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CABUevEyqGVV-s1yXQBsTpoPDCHy79j-yDtJcucrPb9Hh4CFTNg%40mail.gmail.com
> > > > The url would be:
> > > > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/Z0oaTfo56bV4tke6-r_PKJstHF8=
> > >
> > > FWIW, I don't care for that one bit. Yeah, message IDs are pretty
> > > opaque in many cases, but at least they're not designed and built to
> > > be opaque. An example of what would be lost is the ability to find
> > > a message given one of these URLs in any other archive, such as one's
> > > personal mail archive. (Unless one sets up a mapping table to match
> > > this transform, which would be a big PITA.)
> > >
> >
> > You mean going from an URL into actually finding the message, without
> > looking at the actual archives site? Yeah, that wouldn't work. With
> access
> > to the website, the message-id is right there of course.
>
> The ability to do that is crucial for me as well.
>
>
> > It is something that's fairly frequently requested, because they look
> bad.
> > For one thing, it's regularly mentioned when discussion commit messages,
> > because the "discussions:" links tend to wrap...
>
> I kind of don't buy that that's a real problem, fwiw. It's not like one
> has to read them to the end all the time. And if they wrap into the next
> line, then that's fine too? They're not at the start of commit messages,
> after all.
>

I think it's clear that the majority opinion here is that we don't want
this change, and I will thus not complete the patch. (And reference back
to this discussion the next time somebody asks for it -- because it now has
some good explanations on why)

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