From: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> |
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To: | Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Daniel Verite <daniel(at)manitou-mail(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov(at)google(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Euler Taveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com(dot)br>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, Cynthia Shang <cynthia(dot)shang(at)crunchydata(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal |
Date: | 2017-02-06 17:29:20 |
Message-ID: | CABUevEwwMc7zUS_QLyxfb52OPCru_UBfn=r_Epwbehnqa2OySQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:24 AM, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 5:21 AM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
> wrote:
> >> Daniel,
> >>
> >> * Daniel Verite (daniel(at)manitou-mail(dot)org) wrote:
> >>> What if we look at the change from the pessimistic angle?
> >>> An example of confusion that the change would create:
> >>> a lot of users currently choose pg_wal for the destination
> >>> directory of their archive command. Less-informed users
> >>> that set up archiving and/or log shipping in PG10 based on
> >>> advice online from previous versions will be fairly
> >>> confused about the missing pg_xlog, and the fact that the
> >>> pg_wal directory they're supposed to create already exists.
> >>
> >> One would hope that they would realize that's not going to work
> >> when they set up PG10. If they aren't paying attention sufficient
> >> to realize that then it seems entirely likely that they would feel
> >> equally safe removing the contents of a directory named 'pg_xlog'.
> >
> > So... somebody want to tally up the votes here?
>
> Here is what I have, 6 votes clearly stated:
> 1. Rename nothing: Daniel,
> 2. Rename directory only: Andres
> 3. Rename everything: Stephen, Vladimir, David S, Michael P (with
> aliases for functions, I could live without at this point...)
>
Put my vote down for 2.
> > And... was this discussed at the FOSDEM developer meeting?
> >
> > (Please say yes.)
>
> Looking only at the minutes, the answer is no:
> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/FOSDEM/PGDay_2017_Developer_Meeting
We discussed discussing it :) And came to the conclusion that we did not
have enough of a quorum to actually make any decision on it complete, so we
figured it's better if everybody just chime in individually.
--
Magnus Hagander
Me: http://www.hagander.net/
Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
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