Re: Dropping training events

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Dropping training events
Date: 2018-12-05 15:44:49
Message-ID: CABUevEwvhHhxU+vyPCA9qGw0LYED---qS4dMMh=CJA3wgGMYJg@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 3:50 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
wrote:

> On 11/7/18 9:36 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > I'd like to propose that we drop the ability to register training events
> > on the www.postgresql.org <http://www.postgresql.org> site.
> >
> > Reasons:
> >
> > 1. It's basically a system set up to game, where it helps to flood with
> > a lot of instances and then cancel them (often without actually removing
> > the registration on the website, and our moderators certainly don't have
> > the time to go double-check which instances are actually happening etc)
>
> Yeah, I think this is the crux of it: there are some people who are
> using the system fairly for promoting GA trainings with high-quality
> content that do happen. And then there is the above, which unfortunately
> is not just speculation but has been confirmed in multiple instances.
>
> > 2. It takes a lot of work for our moderators
>
> I will certainly +1 this bullet point.
>
> > 3. Based on (1) it provides very little value to the end user the way it
> > is now.
>
> +1 for sure. Some of this is on us to clean up the UX (below).
>
> > 4. And based on (3), in the end it also doesn't provide much value to
> > the companies providing training.
>
> Well, it must provide some value because organizations keep submitting
> training events.
>
> > Instead, I propose that we long-term merge this functionality into the
> > "professional services" part of the site, as a "this provider provides
> > both support and training" or "this provider provides just training"
> > kind of fields. Now, that section of the site *also* needs a complete
> > redesign and re-thought, but the problems to consider (avoid what's
> > basically spam and figuring out how to get a listing thats actually
> > useful to end users) are very similar between things like support and
> > training in this context.
>
> +1, but I think with the correct interface it will make things much
> better for both our users and organizations that are helping to provide
> professional services around the community.
>
> > But short term,let's just drop them because they're useless today.
>
> +1.
>

PFA a patch that implements this.

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