Re: mail to pgsql-general lost?

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: depesz <depesz(at)depesz(dot)com>, "w^3" <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: mail to pgsql-general lost?
Date: 2012-08-16 13:46:28
Message-ID: CABUevEwtGC4OOcHg2m+KR6o+1+Se26NR93XcD_SiNw6bzAr2iQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Alvaro Herrera
<alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> Excerpts from Magnus Hagander's message of mié ago 15 18:09:13 -0400 2012:
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM, hubert depesz lubaczewski
>> <depesz(at)depesz(dot)com> wrote:
>> > hi,
>> > mailed some time ago to pgsql-general, and while I see that it was
>> > delivered to postgresql.org servers, I didn't get it back from list, and
>> > I don't see it in archive - while I do see other mails on the list.
>> >
>> > any chance someone could look what has happened to it:
>> >
>> > times are in CEST timezone, so it was ~ 1 hour ago.
>> >
>> > 2012-08-15 22:44:42 1T1kSI-0003vU-BA <= depesz(at)depesz(dot)com H=andy.depesz.com (depesz.com) [88.198.47.100] P=esmtpa A=login:depesz(at)depesz(dot)com S=63911 id=20120815204441(dot)GA30152(at)depesz(dot)com T="Problem with connection spikes, and slow, very slow, io access"
>> > 2012-08-15 22:44:43 1T1kSI-0003vU-BA magus.postgresql.org [2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29] Network is unreachable
>> > 2012-08-15 22:44:51 1T1kSI-0003vU-BA => pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]
>> > 2012-08-15 22:44:51 1T1kSI-0003vU-BA Completed
>>
>>
>> This is hte message with messageid being delivered into majordomo.
>> Unfortunately, majordomo has no logging at all that I know of. But
>> Alvaro has sometimes been able to track down where messages are as
>> they go through there :) Alvaro? (our local session id on the
>> majordomo server is 1T1kSS-0000A1-Fh)
>
> What do you mean majordomo has no logging? It sure does. In fact, we

I didn't say that. I said "that I know of".

I've looked *everywhere* for a logfile.

Silly me thinking a unix perlscript would have an actual logfile. Per
what you write here, it seems to be in one of the databases...

> have lots of info about that email just on Mj2 alone, without even have
> to look at Exim logs:
>
> $ $MJSHCMD report-full pgsql-general 2d post | less
> ...
> post pgsql-general depesz(at)depesz(dot)com fail 20:44
> (post to pgsql-general)
> resend 690058653d9b25bcb737038d12207678e6ef1ea3 1.509
> ...
> post pgsql-general depesz(at)depesz(dot)com succeed 09:42
> (post to pgsql-general)
> resend 6fbeb650df71e791ac2e10a5b67505eccfb71f4e 163.296
> ...
>
> $ $MJSHCMD sessioninfo 690058653d9b25bcb737038d12207678e6ef1ea3
> The following information was recorded for session number
> 690058653d9b25bcb737038d12207678e6ef1ea3.
>
> Source: resend
> PID: 678
>
> Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([98.129.198.125])
> by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72)
> (envelope-from <depesz(at)depesz(dot)com>)
> id 1T1kSS-0000A1-Fh
> for pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:44:53 +0000
> Received: from andy.depesz.com ([88.198.47.100] helo=depesz.com)
> by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72)
> (envelope-from <depesz(at)depesz(dot)com>)
> id 1T1kSL-0001py-7x
> for pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:44:51 +0000
> Received: from andy.depesz.com ([88.198.47.100] helo=depesz.com)
> by depesz.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80)
> (envelope-from <depesz(at)depesz(dot)com>)
> id 1T1kSI-0003vU-BA
> for pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:44:42 +0200
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:44:42 +0200
> From: hubert depesz lubaczewski <depesz(at)depesz(dot)com>
> Sender: depesz(at)depesz(dot)com
> To: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Problem with connection spikes, and slow, very slow, io access
> Message-ID: <20120815204441(dot)GA30152(at)depesz(dot)com>
> Reply-To: depesz(at)depesz(dot)com
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Disposition: inline
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-)
>
> 0: (post to pgsql-general)
>
>
>
> So we know it *failed*, though we don't know *why* ... it does seem that
> Majordomo does not log this info.

Hah. that would be the most important reason for it to log it of course..

Is there a way to find out how big it was? IIRC, depesz wrote
something about cutting the size down for the second message - maybe
it got rejected because it was too big?

--
Magnus Hagander
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