Re: news ticker Services Policy -- time for a change?

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:
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> On 06/13/2013 06:49 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
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>> * Josh Berkus (josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com) wrote:
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>>> Thing is, I don't think that kind of announcement
>>> belongs on the postgresql.org home page.
>>
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure that I agree. For one thing, it helps argue
>> against the "there's no commercial support for OSS!" mentality which
>> still exists in some industries (particularly US government).
>
>
> I haven't heard this argument in a very long time and considering I have
> various governments constantly asking me to fill out RFPs (you can have them
> 2ndQuadrant/EDB, RFPs are the suck) I am not inclined to agree with your
> statement.

FWIW, I hear it all the time.

Not from people who are clued in, but there are a *lot* of people who
are not clued in.

> Should the announcement be on the front page. I don't know. Part of me says,
> "well of course". They are a major postgresql contributor after all.

I say "probably". Not because they are a major postgresql contributor,
but because it's a service that would be interesting to a fair number
of PostgreSQL users. Certainly more than most of the other news on
that page are interesting to.

> The other part of me, and problem the bigger part says, "Absolutely not".
> Why? Because it isn't PostgreSQL news. It is 2ndQuadrant news. Maybe it
> belongs on -announce but it definitely doesn't belong on .Org news.

I'm sure any marketeer would love you for saying that. Getting
something approved for posting to -announce is *significantly* more
valuable than getting it onto the frontpage, given that it gets
delivered to more than 10,000 confirmed email addresses.

We do need to align these moderation policies. I've done some work on
a technical fix for this, but it's not ready yet.

Another thing that repeatedly comes up in discussions like this is to
separate "community news" from "commercial news", which I think in
general would be a good thing (and have both of them on the
frontpage, in different sections, so commercial news doesn't push
community news off the page). That comes back to the definition of
community news though - what about pgadmin, pgsql-jdbc? then what
about ruby drivers? or support in CMS xyz (open source)? etc. But if
we can make an actual definition that *works* for that, I still think
that would be a better idea.

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