Re: pg_stop_backup(wait_for_archive := true) on standby server

From: Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_stop_backup(wait_for_archive := true) on standby server
Date: 2017-07-24 19:43:15
Message-ID: CAB7nPqQTNixBv2nocB8DCbSw+w5WynkvUenfk0G_=ns3O9ntVA@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:
> What the change would do is make the pg_stop_backup() caller block until
> the last WAL is archvied, and perhaps that ends up taking hours, and
> then the connection is dropped for whatever reason and the backup fails
> where it otherwise.... what? wouldn't have been valid anyway at that
> point, since it's not valid until the last WAL is actually archived.
> Perhaps eventually it would be archived and the caller was planning for
> that and everything is fine, but, well, that feels like an awful lot of
> wishful thinking.

Letting users taking unconsciously inconsistent backups is worse than
potentially breaking scripts that were actually not working as
Postgres would expect. So I am +1 for back-patching a lighter version
of the proposed patch that makes the wait happen on purpose.

>> > I'd hate to have to do it, but we could technically add a GUC to address
>> > this in the back-branches, no? I'm not sure that's really worthwhile
>> > though..
>>
>> That would be mighty ugly.
>
> Oh, absolutely agreed.

Yes, let's avoid that. We are talking about a switch aimed at making
backups potentially inconsistent.
--
Michael

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