Re: pgadmin-for-web is going nowhere

From: Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)berkus(dot)org>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgadmin-for-web is going nowhere
Date: 2017-07-14 15:04:07
Message-ID: CAAtBm9UNMMA2jwC_zWoyMTAV5bKNtieF3f0JUAtbCO6fGxT22A@mail.gmail.com
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Josh,

I'd be interested in knowing what specific things could be done to make you
think that the Web version is no longer the 'ugly stepchild'.

If I consider our (Pivotal's) current development process then the most
honest thing we could say is that the desktop application is our
afterthought. All of our development is done in the browser, our acceptance
environment is an application pushed into a garden container hosted in the
cloud.

Admittedly, we haven't focused on the installation experience so if you
could explain why it is so painful we could look at merging some of the
things we are doing for acceptance into the application itself for
distribution.

-- Rob

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Josh Berkus <josh(at)berkus(dot)org> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Installing pgadmin-for-web is painful, poorly documented, and broken.
> As a result, it's not considered a real UI by anyone not on this team.
>
> Six months ago, I jumped on this with the goal of solving it, partly
> through use of linux containers. However, I'm full stop because of the
> emphasis on (a) having only one package which is both desktop and web,
> and (b) treating the web version as the ugly stepchild.
>
> See: https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/2495#change-7635
>
> If you read the conversation on pgsql-advocacy, for example, you'll see
> that even people in our own community regard pgAdmin4 as not production
> quality software.
>
> As such, I'm done. When y'all decide to get real with caring about
> users' ability to install pgadmin for web, ping me.
>
> --Josh Berkus
>
>

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