Re: How do I tell pgAdmin 4 to not harass me with pointless extra clicks every single time I want to use it?

tutiluren,

I think everyone understands that the usability isn't optimal. Indeed, in
my son's university program, they have a course on UE design, and pgAdmin
is used as a case study of a suboptimal user experience (sorry, don't shoot
me, I'm just the messenger!)

I've logged several feature requests relating to usability, and would
dearly love to see some of them get addressed. But then I look at what's
in the release notes, and see that the team is working on really core
capabilities. I.e., they have to support everything that PostgreSQL can
possibly do, most of what is fixed is way, way beyond my knowledge. As a
developer of a web app I just need the most basic features, whereas the
pgAdmin team has to collectively understand absolutely *everything* about
PostgreSQL. And in my experience as a development manager, the kind of
people who tend to like all the nitty gritty details of databases rarely
tend to have a passion for UE design--different strengths and skill sets
are required. So I'm not surprised that a team that can understand the
complexity of something like PostgreSQL doesn't agonize over optimizing the
UE.

But of course, anyone who is knowledgeable and passionate about UE design
is free to contribute, and perhaps make some improvements. And at that
point I look down at my feet awkwardly and mutter something about not
having the time to immerse myself in the project, and then come to the
happy realization that if it works and is free, then I can live with the
usability rough edges.

So... we have a product that has to encompass a mind-boggling range of
functionality. Could it have better usability? yes. Can I live with it,
as is? yes.

Cheers,
Dave

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 6:07 PM Bo Guo <bo(dot)guo(at)gisticinc(dot)com> wrote:

> tutiluren,
>
> I do not disagree with some of you suggestions; however, please present
> your ideas professionally and with respect!
>
> I for one am very grateful to be able to use pgadmin for free, and
> thankful to those who are behind this wonderful and free product we come
> to rely on.
>
> Bo
>
>
> On 9/20/20 7:32 AM, tutiluren(at)tutanota(dot)com wrote:
> > This is absolutely unreal. I never wanted to have to waste my time
> > asking about pgAdmin 4 ever again, but here we are...
> >
> > Every single time I open it, even with a dedicated browser profile
> > which never gets its data cleared, and even with the special
> > configuration options (requiring one to hack a file) to not ask for a
> > stupid "master password", it **still** forces me to first double-click
> > the "Servers", then double-click the actual "server" to get back to
> > work. So that's four pointless extra clicks every time I want to use
> > pgAdmin 4.
> >
> > How do I make it connect immediately? Why would anyone ever **not**
> > want it to at the very least show the list of servers? Why have all
> > this extra, pointless work?
> >
> > Needless to say, there's nothing in the "preferences" to set this.
> > It's seriously mind-boggling. The only reason I've never mentioned
> > this before has been that there's even worse issues that overshadowed
> > this.
> >
> > Sometimes, randomly, it *does* connect immediately to the server once
> > you've double-clicked the "Servers" thing. The fact that this is not
> > consistent, but (apparently) random, just further confuses me and
> > makes me (again) wonder if this program was designed purposely as a
> > psychological experiment.
>
> Bo
>
>
>
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