From: | Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Andrew Dunstan <adunstan(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgbuildfarm(at)rjuju(dot)net |
Subject: | Re: what's going on with lapwing? |
Date: | 2025-03-06 21:54:34 |
Message-ID: | CAAKRu_btzQoUGjgR8FPoHXFcJasoeE_R8f-pgmp7UDFD02iMhw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 4:38 PM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 4:27 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>
> > My point was that we can implement such a policy in a laissez-faire
> > way: if an older BF animal isn't causing us trouble then why mess
> > with it? Once we *do* recognize that it's causing us trouble,
> > we can apply the still-hypothetical policy and ask the owner to
> > turn it off for branches where it's out of support.
>
> Fair enough. This does have the disadvantage that people will still
> commit things that turn the buildfarm red and have to go into panic
> mode -- perhaps not even realizing which machines are running an older
> OS -- and then reactively do this. However, it still sounds like
> progress over where we are today, because it would (hopefully) remove
> the need for an argument about each individual case.
One thing I've been wishing for recently is access to the discussion
and lore around individual buildfarm animals in a consolidated place.
As a new committer, I haven't been part of all of these discussions
over the last N years and so if an animal goes red, I can look through
the buildfarm status history to see what kind of failures it has had
for the last ~6 months, but it doesn't tell me if that machine is
known for failing because of an outdated OS or some other
platform-specific or hardware-specific issue.
For some animals searching for "skink" in the email archives might be
enough, but I haven't found that to be true so far.
- Melanie
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