From: | Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(at)vondra(dot)me> |
Cc: | Nazir Bilal Yavuz <byavuz81(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: BitmapHeapScan streaming read user and prelim refactoring |
Date: | 2025-02-10 18:02:06 |
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On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 9:27 AM Tomas Vondra <tomas(at)vondra(dot)me> wrote:
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> 2) ryzen
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> This "new" machine has multiple types of storage. The cached results (be
> it in shared buffers or in page cache) are not very interesting. 0003
> helps a bit (~15%), but other than that it's just random noise.
>
> The "uncached" results starting on page 23 are much more interesting. In
> general 0001, 0002 and 0004 have little impact, it seems just random
> noise. So in the rest I'll focus on 0003.
>
> For the single nvme device (device: data), it seems mostly fine. It's
> green, even though there are a couple "localized regressions" for eic=0.
> I haven't looked into those yet.
>
> For the nvme RAID (device: raid-nvme), it's looks almost exactly the
> same, except that with parallel query (page 27) there's a clear area of
> regression with eic=1 (look for "column" of red cells). That's a bit
> unfortunate, because eic=1 is the default value.
It'll be hard to look into all of these, so I think I'll focus on
trying to reproduce something with eic=1 that I can reproduce on my
machine. So far, I can reproduce a regression with the following and
the data file attached.
# initdb and get set up with shared_buffers 1GB
psql -c "create table bitmap_scan_test (a bigint, b bigint, c text)
with (fillfactor = 25)"
psql -c "copy bitmap_scan_test from '/tmp/bitmap_scan_test.data'"
psql -c "create index on bitmap_scan_test (a)"
psql -c "vacuum analyze"
psql -c "checkpoint"
pg_ctl stop
echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
pg_ctl start
psql -c "SET max_parallel_workers_per_gather = 4;" \
-c "SET effective_io_concurrency = 1;" \
-c "SET parallel_setup_cost = 0;" \
-c "SET parallel_tuple_cost = 0;" \
-c "SET enable_seqscan = off;" \
-c "SET enable_indexscan = off;" \
-c "SET work_mem = 65536;"
psql -c "EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM bitmap_scan_test WHERE (a BETWEEN -33
AND 10015) OFFSET 1000000;"
psql -c "SELECT * FROM bitmap_scan_test WHERE (a BETWEEN -33 AND
10015) OFFSET 1000000;"
It's not a huge regression and planner doesn't naturally pick parallel
bitmap heap scan for this, but I don't have a SATA drive right now, so
I focused on something I could reproduce.
One thing I noticed when I was playing around with the script is that
depending on the values chosen by random(), there were differences in
timing. From your script, it looks like the $from and $to won't be the
same for master and the patch each time (they are set in the inner
most nesting level, below where $build is set). Am I understanding
correctly?
> Anyway, the results look sensible. It might be good to investigate some
> of the regressions, and I'll try doing that if I find the time. But I
> don't think that's necessarily a blocker - every patch of this type will
> have a hardware where the heuristics doesn't quite do the right thing by
> default. Which is why we have GUCs to tune it if appropriate.
Yea, I definitely won't be able to look into all of the regressions.
So, I guess we have to ask if we are willing to make the tradeoff.
- Melanie
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