Re: Some problems of recovery conflict wait events

From: Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Some problems of recovery conflict wait events
Date: 2020-04-03 05:00:42
Message-ID: CA+fd4k6oFs+Y0UyVXAA8n4ukuyJZGgSAjbsJ=RfOKZ6KE-BfcQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 12:28, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com> wrote:
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> On 2020/04/02 16:12, Fujii Masao wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2020/04/02 15:54, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 15:34, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2020/04/02 14:25, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 22:32, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2020/03/30 20:10, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 17:54, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2020/03/04 14:31, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 at 13:48, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2020/03/04 13:27, Michael Paquier wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 01:13:19PM +0900, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, so 0001 patch sets existing wait events to recovery conflict
> >>>>>>>>>>> resolution. For instance, it sets (PG_WAIT_LOCK | LOCKTAG_TRANSACTION)
> >>>>>>>>>>> to the recovery conflict on a snapshot. 0003 patch improves these wait
> >>>>>>>>>>> events by adding the new type of wait event such as
> >>>>>>>>>>> WAIT_EVENT_RECOVERY_CONFLICT_SNAPSHOT. Therefore 0001 (and 0002) patch
> >>>>>>>>>>> is the fix for existing versions and 0003 patch is an improvement for
> >>>>>>>>>>> only PG13. Did you mean even 0001 patch doesn't fit for back-patching?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, it looks like a improvement rather than bug fix.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Okay, understand.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I got my eyes on this patch set. The full patch set is in my opinion
> >>>>>>>>>> just a set of improvements, and not bug fixes, so I would refrain from
> >>>>>>>>>> back-backpatching.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think that the issue (i.e., "waiting" is reported twice needlessly
> >>>>>>>>> in PS display) that 0002 patch tries to fix is a bug. So it should be
> >>>>>>>>> fixed even in the back branches.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So we need only two patches: one fixes process title issue and another
> >>>>>>>> improve wait event. I've attached updated patches.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I started reading v2-0002-Improve-wait-events-for-recovery-conflict-resolut.patch.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - ProcWaitForSignal(PG_WAIT_BUFFER_PIN);
> >>>>>>> + ProcWaitForSignal(WAIT_EVENT_RECOVERY_CONFLICT_BUFFER_PIN);
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Currently the wait event indicating the wait for buffer pin has already
> >>>>>>> been reported. But the above change in the patch changes the name of
> >>>>>>> wait event for buffer pin only in the startup process. Is this really useful?
> >>>>>>> Isn't the existing wait event for buffer pin enough?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - /* Wait to be signaled by the release of the Relation Lock */
> >>>>>>> - ProcWaitForSignal(PG_WAIT_LOCK | locktag.locktag_type);
> >>>>>>> + /* Wait to be signaled by the release of the Relation Lock */
> >>>>>>> + ProcWaitForSignal(WAIT_EVENT_RECOVERY_CONFLICT_LOCK);
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Same as above. Isn't the existing wait event enough?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yeah, we can use the existing wait events for buffer pin and lock.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - /*
> >>>>>>> - * Progressively increase the sleep times, but not to more than 1s, since
> >>>>>>> - * pg_usleep isn't interruptible on some platforms.
> >>>>>>> - */
> >>>>>>> - standbyWait_us *= 2;
> >>>>>>> - if (standbyWait_us > 1000000)
> >>>>>>> - standbyWait_us = 1000000;
> >>>>>>> + WaitLatch(MyLatch,
> >>>>>>> + WL_LATCH_SET | WL_POSTMASTER_DEATH | WL_TIMEOUT,
> >>>>>>> + STANDBY_WAIT_MS,
> >>>>>>> + wait_event_info);
> >>>>>>> + ResetLatch(MyLatch);
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ResetLatch() should be called before WaitLatch()?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Fixed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Could you tell me why you dropped the "increase-sleep-times" logic?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I thought we can remove it because WaitLatch is interruptible but my
> >>>>>> observation was not correct. The waiting startup process is not
> >>>>>> necessarily woken up by signal. I think it's still better to not wait
> >>>>>> more than 1 sec even if it's an interruptible wait.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So we don't need to use WaitLatch() there, i.e., it's ok to keep using
> >>>>> pg_usleep()?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Attached patch fixes the above and introduces only two wait events of
> >>>>>> conflict resolution: snapshot and tablespace.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks for updating the patch!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - /* Wait to be signaled by the release of the Relation Lock */
> >>>>> - ProcWaitForSignal(PG_WAIT_LOCK | locktag.locktag_type);
> >>>>> + /* Wait to be signaled by the release of the Relation Lock */
> >>>>> + ProcWaitForSignal(PG_WAIT_LOCK | locktag.locktag_type);
> >>>>> + }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is this change really valid? What happens if the latch is set during
> >>>>> ResolveRecoveryConflictWithVirtualXIDs()?
> >>>>> ResolveRecoveryConflictWithVirtualXIDs() can return after the latch
> >>>>> is set but before WaitLatch() in WaitExceedsMaxStandbyDelay() is reached.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for reviewing the patch!
> >>>>
> >>>> You're right. It's better to keep using pg_usleep() and set the wait
> >>>> event by pgstat_report_wait_start().
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> + default:
> >>>>> + event_name = "unknown wait event";
> >>>>> + break;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seems this default case should be removed. Please see other
> >>>>> pgstat_get_wait_xxx() function, so there is no such code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I also removed the wait
> >>>>>> event of conflict resolution of database since it's unlikely to become
> >>>>>> a user-visible and a long sleep as we discussed before.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it worth defining new wait event type RecoveryConflict only for
> >>>>> those two events? ISTM that it's ok to use IPC event type here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I dropped a new wait even type and added them to IPC wait event type.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've attached the new version patch.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for updating the patch! The patch looks good to me except
> >>> the following mior things.
> >>>
> >>> + <row>
> >>> + <entry><literal>RecoveryConflictSnapshot</literal></entry>
> >>> + <entry>Waiting for recovery conflict resolution on a physical cleanup.</entry>
> >>> + </row>
> >>> + <row>
> >>> + <entry><literal>RecoveryConflictTablespace</literal></entry>
> >>> + <entry>Waiting for recovery conflict resolution on dropping tablespace.</entry>
> >>> + </row>
> >>>
> >>> You need to increment the value of "morerows" in
> >>> "<entry morerows="38"><literal>IPC</literal></entry>".
> >>>
> >>> The descriptions of those two events should be placed in alphabetical order
> >>> for event name. That is, they should be placed above RecoveryPause.
> >>>
> >>> "vacuum cleanup" is better than "physical cleanup"?
> >>
> >> Agreed.
> >>
> >> I've attached the updated version patch.
> >
> > Thanks! Looks good to me. Barring any objection, I will commit this patch.
>
> Pushed! Thanks!

Thank you so much!

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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