Re: ALTER TABLE lock strength reduction patch is unsafe

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: ALTER TABLE lock strength reduction patch is unsafe
Date: 2012-01-03 10:47:17
Message-ID: CA+U5nMLpfx-NpC8fD6-7EEV5LxKLmM7YjZKLGicV91U3Rg+kaA@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:18:41AM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
>> Just for the record, yes we do run multiple catalog scans in some
>> parts of the code.
>>
>> So I can see how we might trigger 4 nested scans, using cache
>> replacement while scanning, so best assume more, with no guarantee of
>> them being neatly stacked for pop/push type access.
>
> Yeah, I wouldn't want to commit to a nesting limit.

Agreed

> However, I _would_ have
> expected that a stack would suffice; PushActiveSnapshot()/PopActiveSnapshot()
> is adequate for a great deal of the backend, after all.  In what sort of
> situation do catalog scans not strictly nest?

It's possible. Making assumptions about what is possible bit me
before, as you showed.

I've seen code where we are explicitly running two concurrent scans.

I don't want to put unnecessary and subtle assumptions into catalog
scan code so I'm working on the assumption that endscan may not be
called in strict FIFO order. The difference is fairly minor and
doesn't restrict us in other ways.

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