From: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Atri Sharma <atri(dot)jiit(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: ALTER TABLE lock strength reduction patch is unsafe Reply-To: |
Date: | 2014-03-22 07:31:00 |
Message-ID: | CA+U5nMKihfhazYtQFmYSw1a4DHVD5dv91dMh4HPnZ=FZOTGEfA@mail.gmail.com |
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On 21 March 2014 23:36, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> writes:
>> On 21 March 2014 20:58, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com> wrote:
>>> It's not the behavior I would choose for a new product, but I can't see
>>> benefits sufficient to overturn previous decisions to keep it.
>
>> Speechless
>
> The key argument for not "fixing" this is that it would break existing
> pg_dump files. That's a pretty hard argument to overcome, unfortunately,
> even if you're willing to blow off the possibility that client
> applications might contain similar shortcuts. We still do our best to
> read dump files from the 7.0 era (see ConvertTriggerToFK() for one example
> of going above and beyond for that); and every so often we do hear of
> people trying to get data out of such ancient servers. So even if you
> went and fixed pg_dump tomorrow, it'd probably be ten or fifteen years
> before people would let you stop reading dumps from existing versions.
Noah had already convinced me, but thank you for explaining the issue
behind that.
--
Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
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