From: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: VACUUM ANALYZE is faster than ANALYZE? |
Date: | 2012-02-23 08:34:18 |
Message-ID: | CA+U5nMKUGRz9EJQoig-pJqWcdPE3haZC8iV+3nXK8MvHz5q8mg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> The industry accepted description for non-sequential access is "random
>> access" whether or not the function that describes the movement is
>> entirely random. To argue otherwise is merely hairsplitting.
>
> I don't think so.
PostgreSQL already uses a parameter called "random_page_cost" to
describe non-sequential access. Perhaps that is wrong and we need a
third parameter?
> For example, a bitmap index scan contrives to speed
> things up by arranging for the table I/O to happen in ascending block
> number order, with skips, rather than in random order, as a plain
> index scan would do, and that seems to be a pretty effective
> technique. Except to the extent that it interferes with the kernel's
> ability to do readahead, it really can't be to read blocks 1, 2, 3, 4,
> and 5 than to read blocks 1, 2, 4, and 5. Not reading block 3 can't
> require more effort than reading it.
By that argument, ANALYZE never could run longer than VACUUM ANALYZE,
so you disagree with Tom and I and you can't explain Pavel's
results....
cost_bitmap_heap_scan() uses "random_page_cost" to evaluate the cost
of accessing blocks, even though the author knew the access was in
ascending block number order. Why was that?
Note that the cost_bitmap_heap_scan() cost can be > than
cost-seqscan() for certain parameter values.
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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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