From: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Scaling XLog insertion (was Re: Moving more work outside WALInsertLock) |
Date: | 2012-03-07 08:35:44 |
Message-ID: | CA+U5nM+rm8pt2pejAX4UaEfp0_MY1a_=vGLNiBCCoYM6oEi7aA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> writes:
>> On 06.03.2012 17:12, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> How long is the current locked code exactly --- does it contain a loop?
>
>> Perhaps best if you take a look for yourself, the function is called
>> ReserveXLogInsertLocation() in patch. It calls a helper function called
>> AdvanceXLogRecPtrToNextPage(ptr), which is small and could be inlined.
>> It does contain one loop, which iterates once for every WAL page the
>> record crosses.
>
> Hm. The loop makes me a tad uncomfortable, because it is possible for
> WAL records to be very long (many pages). I see the point that
> replacing the spinlock with an LWLock would likely negate any
> performance win from this patch, but having other processes arrive and
> spin while somebody is busy calculating the size of a multi-megabyte
> commit record would be bad too.
I would have thought the existence of a multi-megabyte commit record
would already imply a huge performance effect elsewhere and we
wouldn't care too much about a few spinlock cycles. But I think
they're as rare as Higgs bosons.
If/when such records do exist it isn't likely to be on a high
transaction rate server. Even allocating ~1 million xids takes long
enough that we wouldn't be expecting a very high commit rate even with
200 concurrent sessions doing this. If such records are rare, then the
minor blip they cause is just a drop in the ocean.
So I think Tom's concern is valid, but the frequency of problems
resulting from it will be so low as to not even be measurable. And
before we fix a perceived performance issue, we really should prove
its existence first, then confirm that this area is the bottleneck
that is slowing such workloads.
So +1 to Heikki keeping the spinlock, as is, and not redesign anything.
--
Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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