Re: Remaining beta blockers

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Remaining beta blockers
Date: 2013-04-28 19:53:51
Message-ID: CA+U5nM+SmAX3MFLDjtXfLNpb-oNyNYTAT0HAJ8-TCzSb=ZfqOA@mail.gmail.com
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On 28 April 2013 16:55, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> writes:
>> On other patches, one committer objecting to something is seen as
>> enough of a blocker to require change. That should work in every
>> direction.
>
> The bottom line here is that we have substantial disagreement on how
> unlogged matviews should be implemented, and there's no longer enough
> time for coming to a resolution that will satisfy everybody. I think
> that means we have to pull the feature from 9.3. If it had not yet
> been committed it would certainly not be getting in now over multiple
> objections.

I've not said much good about Mat Views, that is true, but that was
aimed at not running with it as a headline feature without
qualification. I don't take that as far as thinking the feature should
be pulled completely; there is some good worth having in most things.
Is this issue worth pulling the whole feature on?

> Given Robert's concerns, it may be that the same should be said for
> scannability tracking. I think it's definitely the case that if we
> don't have unlogged matviews then the need for system-level tracking
> of scannability is greatly decreased. Kevin's already said that he
> plans to work on a much more flexible notion of scannability for 9.4,
> and I remain concerned that something we do in haste now might not
> prove to be a good upward-compatible basis for that redesign.

Given that unlogged tables are somewhat volatile, unlogged matviews
wouldn't be missed much AFAICS. We can add that thought as a later
optimisation.

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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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