Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>
Cc: David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk
Date: 2020-07-22 19:42:03
Message-ID: CA+TgmobVAQH8USLTwuDGv9Ry9p5ay84uFWLa0oqDXOt9Diygtw@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 6:49 PM Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> wrote:
> Maybe I missed your point here. The problem is not so much that we'll
> get HashAggs that spill -- there is nothing intrinsically wrong with
> that. While it's true that the I/O pattern is not as sequential as a
> similar group agg + sort, that doesn't seem like the really important
> factor here. The really important factor is that in-memory HashAggs
> can be blazingly fast relative to *any* alternative strategy -- be it
> a HashAgg that spills, or a group aggregate + sort that doesn't spill,
> whatever. We're mostly concerned about keeping the one available fast
> strategy than we are about getting a new, generally slow strategy.

I don't know; it depends. Like, if the less-sequential I/O pattern
that is caused by a HashAgg is not really any slower than a
Sort+GroupAgg, then whatever. The planner might as well try a HashAgg
- because it will be fast if it stays in memory - and if it doesn't
work out, we've lost little by trying. But if a Sort+GroupAgg is
noticeably faster than a HashAgg that ends up spilling, then there is
a potential regression. I thought we had evidence that this was a real
problem, but if that's not the case, then I think we're fine as far as
v13 goes.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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