Re: amcheck (B-Tree integrity checking tool)

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Anastasia Lubennikova <a(dot)lubennikova(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>
Subject: Re: amcheck (B-Tree integrity checking tool)
Date: 2017-02-13 16:33:54
Message-ID: CA+TgmobTdNhYY3DuVcwpMUQ=cWDqRcfuEzm+92VeJzNyf_5mew@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> wrote:
> BTW, aren't there cases where a PARALLEL SAFE function that needs to
> acquire locks on some arbitrary relation not referenced in the query
> can get locks on its own, which may only last as long as the parallel
> worker's lifetime? This could happen *despite* the fact that the
> author of the function may have imagined that callers could not
> release relation level locks early (i.e., by not releasing them
> directly, and so correctly following this "badly documented
> assumption").

Yes.

> It seems like the existence of PARALLEL RESTRICTED is primarily
> motivated by making stuff that definitely needs the locks to last
> until xact end being sure that that happens -- the docs say so. This
> seems wholly inconsistent with the idea that you're not supposed to
> let that happen under any circumstances. I find all this highly
> confusing. Have I missed some further subtlety that applies with
> PARALLEL RESTRICTED?

That's by no means the only thing that could cause you to mark
something PARALLEL RESTRICTED. I think you might have missed this bit
of the documentation, a few paragraphs up:

Similarly, functions must be marked <literal>PARALLEL
RESTRICTED</> if they access temporary tables, client connection state,
cursors, prepared statements, or miscellaneous backend-local state which
the system cannot synchronize across workers. For example,
<literal>setseed</> and <literal>random</> are parallel restricted for
this last reason.

That stuff is the main motivation. The early lock release stuff could
come up for user-written functions, but the things listed in the
paragraph I've quoted here come up for plenty of built-in functions.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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