From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com> |
Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Marti Raudsepp <marti(at)juffo(dot)org>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: B-Tree support function number 3 (strxfrm() optimization) |
Date: | 2014-09-25 16:21:45 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmobDe+YDFnHTS0GWpT54-er8BPT3vx8rPshD+98CTDo25g@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com> wrote:
>> Probably not - it appears to make very little difference to
>> unoptimized pass-by-reference types whether or not datum1 can be used
>> (see my simulation of Kevin's worst case, for example [1]). Streaming
>> through a not inconsiderable proportion of memtuples again is probably
>> a lot worse. The datum1 optimization (which is not all that old) made
>> a lot of sense when initially introduced, because it avoided chasing
>> through a pointer for pass-by-value types. I think that's its sole
>> justification, though.
>
> Just to be clear -- I am blocked on this. Do you really prefer to
> restart copying heap tuples from scratch in the event of aborting,
> just to make sure that the datum1 representation is consistently
> either a pointer to text, or an abbreviated key? I don't think that
> the costs involved make that worth it, as I've said, but I'm not sure
> how to resolve that controversy.
>
> I suggest that we focus on making sure the abort logic itself is
> sound. There probably hasn't been enough discussion of that. Once that
> is resolved, we can revisit the question of whether or not copying
> should restart to keep the datum1 representation consistent. I suspect
> that leaving that until later will be easier all around.
The top issue on my agenda is figuring out a way to get rid of the
extra SortSupport object. I'm not going to commit any version of this
patch that uses a second SortSupport for the tiebreak. I doubt anyone
else will like that either, but you can try.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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