| From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
| Cc: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Michael Banck <michael(dot)banck(at)credativ(dot)de>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Online verification of checksums |
| Date: | 2019-03-19 15:22:30 |
| Message-ID: | CA+TgmobAv2nYJuqdAaV3vcBppwsKYRMziyussSeFTZQ8y2eAzA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:38 AM Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:
> Sure the backend has those facilities since it needs to, but these
> frontend tools *don't* need that to *never* have any false positives, so
> why are we complicating things by saying that this frontend tool and the
> backend have to coordinate?
>
> If there's an explanation of why we can't avoid having false positives
> in the frontend tool, I've yet to see it. I definitely understand that
> we can get partial reads, but a partial read isn't a failure, and
> shouldn't be reported as such.
I think there's some confusion between 'partial read' and 'torn page',
as Michael also said.
It's torn pages that I am concerned about - the server is writing and
we are reading, and we get a mix of old and new content. We have been
quite diligent about protecting ourselves from such risks elsewhere,
and checksum verification should not be held to any lesser standard.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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