Re: preserving db/ts/relfilenode OIDs across pg_upgrade (was Re: storing an explicit nonce)

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Shruthi Gowda <gowdashru(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Kincaid <tomjohnkincaid(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: preserving db/ts/relfilenode OIDs across pg_upgrade (was Re: storing an explicit nonce)
Date: 2021-08-24 18:34:26
Message-ID: CA+TgmoaxTm1eSJrupvy1+9Y0t_1x9dfhmzHZ2x__36o0WYKa_A@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:16 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> One other issue --- the more that pg_upgrade preserves, the more likely
> pg_upgrade will break when some internal changes happen in Postgres.
> Therefore, if you want pg_upgrade to preserve something, you have to
> have a good reason --- even code simplicity might not be a sufficient
> reason.

While I accept that as a general principle, I don't think it's really
applicable in this case. pg_upgrade already knows all about
relfilenodes; it has a source file called relfilenode.c. I don't see
that a pg_upgrade that preserves relfilenodes is any more or less
likely to break in the future than a pg_upgrade that renumbers all the
files so that the relation OID and the relfilenode are equal. You've
got about the same amount of reliance on the on-disk layout either
way.

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Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com

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