Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes
Date: 2014-09-19 21:29:08
Message-ID: CA+Tgmoak2n3yXtH5rfSFKpPdYNj-sWnyUwp5UNF5BVV+GhpV6w@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> On September 19, 2014 10:16:35 PM CEST, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>On 19 September 2014 13:04, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> What I'm thinking about is that the smarts to enable pruning is all
>>in
>>> the executor nodes. So anything that updates the catalog without
>>> going through the executor will never be subject to pruning. That
>>> includes nearly all catalog-modifying code throughout the backend.
>>
>>Are you saying this is a problem or a benefit? (and please explain
>>why).
>
> I have no idea what Robert is thinking of, but I'd imagine its horrible for workloads with catalog bloat. Like ones involving temp tables.

Right, that's what I was going for.

> I generally have serious doubts about disabling it generally for read workloads. I imagine it e.g. will significantly penalize workloads where its likely that a cleanup lock can't be acquired every time...

I share that doubt. But I understand why Simon wants to do something,
too, because the current situation is not great either.

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Robert Haas
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