Re: Suggested new CF status: "Pending Discussion"

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
>> I thought it was a useful idea anyway, but I could see his point. This
>> should probably move to "Waiting on Author" when it happens, presuming
>> that the person who wrote something is motivated to see the change
>> committed. (If they weren't, why did they write it?)
>
> Except that the implication of "waiting on author" is that, if there's
> no updates in a couple weeks, we bounce it. And the author doesn't
> necessarily control a bikeshedding discussion about syntax, for example.

That's true. I think, though, that the basic problem is that we've
lost track of the ostensible purpose of a CommitFest, which is to
commit the patches that *are already ready* for commit. Very little
of the recently-committed stuff was ready to commit on January 15th,
or even close to it, and the percentage of what's left that falls into
that category is probably dropping steadily. At this point, if
there's not a consensus on it, the correct status is "Returned with
Feedback". Specifically, the feedback that we're not going to commit
it this CommitFest because we don't have consensus on it yet.

If we want to reopen development on 9.3 for another six months and
have a few more CommitFests, fine, we can decide to do that. But if
we're NOT going to do that, then what we should be focusing our
attention at this point is looking at the things that haven't been
looked at yet that might be ready to go in - NOT bikeshedding on the
things that clearly aren't ready to go in but maybe with enough work
could be made so.

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Robert Haas
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