From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Mithun Cy <mithun(dot)cy(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [HACKERS] Moving relation extension locks out of heavyweight lock manager |
Date: | 2020-02-14 15:28:29 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoZysx1W8HBQfEQBLuBO2aSoogFo9GN6h0g4=5GX8975uQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 11:53 AM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Yeah. I would say a couple more things:
>
> * I see no reason to think that a relation extension lock would ever
> be held long enough for noninterruptibility to be a real issue. Our
> expectations for query cancel response time are in the tens to
> hundreds of msec anyway.
I don't agree, because (1) the time to perform a relation extension on
a busy system can be far longer than that and (2) if the disk is
failing, then it can be *really* long, or indefinite.
> * There are other places where an LWLock can be held for a *long* time,
> notably the CheckpointLock. If we do think this is an issue, we could
> devise a way to not insist on noninterruptibility. The easiest fix
> is just to do a matching RESUME_INTERRUPTS after getting the lock and
> HOLD_INTERRUPTS again before releasing it; though maybe it'd be worth
> offering some slightly cleaner way. Point here is that LWLockAcquire
> only does that because it's useful to the majority of callers, not
> because it's graven in stone that it must be like that.
That's an interesting idea, but it doesn't make the lock acquisition
itself interruptible, which seems pretty important to me in this case.
I wonder if we could have an LWLockAcquireInterruptibly() or some such
that allows the lock acquisition itself to be interruptible. I think
that would require some rejiggering but it might be doable.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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