Re: New CF app deployment

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
> On 01/26/2015 01:29 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
>> Furthermore,
>> if it sucked so bad, why did it take anyone 5 years to get around to
>> rewriting it? It took me less than a year to get around to replacing
>> what you wrote.
>
> Because whoever replaced it knew they'd be facing a shitstorm of criticism?

Didn't stop me. And actually, I didn't face a shitstorm of criticism.
The way I remember it, I got a pretty much unqualified positive
reaction at the time. Only later, when you had conveniently forgotten
how bad things were before we had that tool, did you start routinely
dumping on it. And, AFAICS, not because of anything it did wrong,
only because of things that it didn't do that were features you wanted
to have.

Most of those features were things that I could not possibly have
implemented anyway because they would have required deeper integration
with the authentication system than was possible with the access my
app had. Automatically linking new emails? Not possible: I had no
archives access. Automatic emails to users? Not possible: no access
to email addresses. Place to put a link to a git branch? Yeah, I
could have done that, and just didn't, but the new app doesn't do it
either, yet anyway. I don't know how Magnus's app is connecting in to
the rest of the PG infrastructure, but it's obviously got more access
than mine had. And I think that's great, because hopefully it will
eventually make this much nicer than what I had. It isn't nicer yet,
though, and you showing up and tossing out insults based on
revisionist history won't fix that.

What particularly peeves me about your remarks is that you've
basically made no contribution to the CommitFest process in years. I
am less active than I used to be, but I still do a lot of reviewing
and committing of patches and generally put a pretty significant
amount of time into it. Despite whatever shortcomings that app I
wrote has, so do a lot of other people. The CommitFest process has
got its issues, particularly a lack of reviewers, but it is still
better than having no process, and yet your only contributions seem to
be to denigrate the people who are putting time into it. You're using
the poor quality of my app, and an almost total misinterpretation of
what was said about attracting new reviewers at PGCon, as excuses for
your non-participation, and that is certainly your prerogative. You
have as much right not to participate as anyone. But refusing to
participate except to throw bricks is not going to move this project
forward.

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Robert Haas
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