From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Jan Wieck <jan(at)wi3ck(dot)info> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Michael Banck <michael(dot)banck(at)credativ(dot)de>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: should we enable log_checkpoints out of the box? |
Date: | 2021-11-03 12:08:29 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoZbJmwcVJ4mrA36eGAGnmqURh6wYttwqJWZNGx0TA3kXw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 11:18 PM Jan Wieck <jan(at)wi3ck(dot)info> wrote:
> The thing I don't want to see us doing is *nothing at all* when pretty
> much everyone with some customer experience in the field is saying "this
> is the information we want to see post incident and nobody has it so we
> sit there waiting for the next time it happens."
Quite so.
I'm not convinced that the proposal to log checkpoints only when
they're triggered by WAL rather than by time is really solving
anything. It isn't as if a time-based checkpoint couldn't have caused
a problem. What you're going to be looking for is something much more
complicated than that. Were the fsyncs slow? Did the checkpoint around
the time the user reported a problem write significantly more data
than the other checkpoints? I guess if a checkpoint wrote 1MB of data
and took 0.1 seconds to complete the fsyncs, I don't much care whether
it shows up in the log or not. If it wrote 4GB of data, or if it took
15 seconds to complete the fsyncs, I care. That's easily enough to
account for some problem that somebody had.
I'm not sure whether there are any other interesting criteria.
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Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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