From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: max_parallel_degree > 0 for 9.6 beta |
Date: | 2016-04-21 22:48:42 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoZJTCS+NME_UKtPp5pj6xPybDQyG-4h-xeAd=LJ57WZWQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Gavin Flower
<GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz> wrote:
> On 22/04/16 06:07, Robert Haas wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>>
>>> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> max_parallel_degree currently defaults to 0. I think we should enable
>>>>>> it by default for at least the beta period. Otherwise we're primarily
>>>>>> going to get reports back after the release.
>>>>
>>>> So, I suggest that the only sensible non-zero values here are probably
>>>> "1" or "2", given a default pool of 8 worker processes system-wide.
>>>> Andres told me yesterday he'd vote for "2". Any other opinions?
>>>
>>> It has to be at least 2 for beta purposes, else you are not testing
>>> situations with more than one worker process at all, which would be
>>> rather a large omission no?
>>
>> That's what Andres, thought, too. From my point of view, the big
>> thing is to be using workers at all. It is of course possible that
>> there could be some bugs where a single worker is not enough, but
>> there's a lot of types of bug where even one worker would probably
>> find the problem. But I'm OK with changing the default to 2.
>>
> I'm curious.
>
> Why not 4? As most processors now have at least 4 physical cores, & surely
> it be more likely to flush out race conditions.
Because if we did that, then it's extremely likely that people would
end up writing queries that are faster only if workers are present,
and then not get any workers.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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