From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Amul Sul <sulamul(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Jaime Casanova <jcasanov(at)systemguards(dot)com(dot)ec>, Rushabh Lathia <rushabh(dot)lathia(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Prabhat Sahu <prabhat(dot)sahu(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: [Patch] ALTER SYSTEM READ ONLY |
Date: | 2021-10-18 22:20:34 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoZ5A26C6OxKApafyuy_sx0VG6VXdD_Q6aSEzsvrPHDwzw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Amul Sul <sulamul(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> I tried this in the attached version, but I'm a bit skeptical with
> changes that are needed for CreateCheckPoint(), those don't seem to be
> clean.
Yeah, that doesn't look great. I don't think it's entirely correct,
actually, because surely you want LocalXLogInsertAllowed = 0 to be
executed even if !IsPostmasterEnvironment. It's only
LocalXLogInsertAllowed = -1 that we would want to have depend on
IsPostmasterEnvironment. But that's pretty ugly too: I guess the
reason it has to be like is that, if it does that unconditionally, it
will overwrite the temporary value of 1 set by the caller, which will
then cause problems when the caller tries to XLogReportParameters().
I think that problem goes away if we drive the decision off of shared
state rather than a local variable, but I agree that it's otherwise a
bit tricky to untangle. One idea might be to have
LocalSetXLogInsertAllowed return the old value. Then we could use the
same kind of coding we do when switching memory contexts, where we
say:
oldcontext = MemoryContextSwitchTo(something);
// do stuff
MemoryContextSwitchTo(oldcontext);
Here we could maybe do:
oldxlallowed = LocalSetXLogInsertAllowed();
// do stuff
XLogInsertAllowed = oldxlallowed;
That way, instead of CreateCheckPoint() knowing under what
circumstances the caller might have changed the value, it only knows
that some callers might have already changed the value. That seems
better.
> I agree that calling InitXLOGAccess() from RecoveryInProgress() is not
> good, but I am not sure about calling it from XLogInsertAllowed()
> either, perhaps, both are status check function and general
> expectations might be that status checking functions are not going
> change and/or initialize the system state. InitXLOGAccess() should
> get called from the very first WAL write operation if needed, but if
> we don't want to do that, then I would prefer to call InitXLOGAccess()
> from XLogInsertAllowed() instead of RecoveryInProgress().
Well, that's a fair point, too, but it might not be safe to, say, move
this to XLogBeginInsert(). Like, imagine that there's a hypothetical
piece of code that looks like this:
if (RecoveryInProgress())
ereport(ERROR, errmsg("can't do that in recovery")));
// do something here that depends on ThisTimeLineID or
wal_segment_size or RedoRecPtr
XLogBeginInsert();
....
lsn = XLogInsert(...);
Such code would work correctly the way things are today, but if the
InitXLOGAccess() call were deferred until XLogBeginInsert() time, then
it would fail.
I was curious whether this is just a theoretical problem. It turns out
that it's not. I wrote a couple of just-for-testing patches, which I
attach here. The first one just adjusts things so that we'll fail an
assertion if we try to make use of ThisTimeLineID before we've set it
to a legal value. I had to exempt two places from these checks just
for 'make check-world' to pass; these are shown in the patch, and one
or both of them might be existing bugs -- or maybe not, I haven't
looked too deeply. The second one then adjusts the patch to pretend
that ThisTimeLineID is not necessarily valid just because we've called
InitXLOGAccess() but that it is valid after XLogBeginInsert(). With
that change, I find about a dozen places where, apparently, the early
call to InitXLOGAccess() is critical to getting ThisTimeLineID
adjusted in time. So apparently a change of this type is not entirely
trivial. And this is just a quick test, and just for one of the three
things that get initialized here.
On the other hand, just moving it to XLogInsertAllowed() isn't
risk-free either and would likely require adjusting some of the same
places I found with this test. So I guess if we want to do something
like this we need more study.
--
Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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0002-Pretend-it-s-not-valid-until-XLogBeginInsert.patch | application/octet-stream | 8.4 KB |
0001-Test-code-to-see-whether-we-have-always-properly-ini.patch | application/octet-stream | 29.7 KB |
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