From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422(at)gmail(dot)com>, "tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [bug?] Missed parallel safety checks, and wrong parallel safety |
Date: | 2021-06-11 20:25:59 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoYXuMnFHNDmzj_bDLRyd8K9x=p=Sh-oeSrU5JjMqtoVGQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 12:13 AM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> Do we invalidate relcache entry if someone changes say trigger or some
> index AM function property via Alter Function (in our case from safe
> to unsafe or vice-versa)? Tsunakawa-San has mentioned this as the
> reason in his email [1] why we can't rely on caching this property in
> relcache entry. I also don't see anything in AlterFunction which would
> suggest that we invalidate the relation with which the function might
> be associated via trigger.
Hmm. I am not sure index that AM functions really need to be checked,
but triggers certainly do. I think if you are correct that an ALTER
FUNCTION wouldn't invalidate the relcache entry, which is I guess
pretty much the same problem Tom was pointing out in the thread to
which you linked.
But ... thinking out of the box as Tom suggests, what if we came up
with some new kind of invalidation message that is only sent when a
function's parallel-safety marking is changed? And every backend in
the same database then needs to re-evaluate the parallel-safety of
every relation for which it has cached a value. Such recomputations
might be expensive, but they would probably also occur very
infrequently. And you might even be able to make it a bit more
fine-grained if it's worth the effort to worry about that: say that in
addition to caching the parallel-safety of the relation, we also cache
a list of the pg_proc OIDs upon which that determination depends. Then
when we hear that the flag's been changed for OID 123456, we only need
to invalidate the cached value for relations that depended on that
pg_proc entry. There are ways that a relation could become
parallel-unsafe without changing the parallel-safety marking of any
function, but perhaps all of the other ways involve a relcache
invalidation?
Just brainstorming here. I might be off-track.
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Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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