From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Jeevan Chalke <jeevan(dot)chalke(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Anastasia Lubennikova <a(dot)lubennikova(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: block-level incremental backup |
Date: | 2019-09-16 15:52:56 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoYT9xODgEB6y6j93hFHqobVcdiRCRCp0dHh+fFzZALn=w@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:30 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > Isn't some operations where at the end we directly call heap_sync
> > without writing WAL will have a similar problem as well?
>
> Maybe. Can you give an example?
Looking through the code, I found two cases where we do this. One is
a bulk insert operation with wal_level = minimal, and the other is
CLUSTER or VACUUM FULL with wal_level = minimal. In both of these
cases we are generating new blocks whose LSNs will be 0/0. So, I think
we need a rule that if the server is asked to back up all blocks in a
file with LSNs > some threshold LSN, it must also include any blocks
whose LSN is 0/0. Those blocks are either uninitialized or are
populated without WAL logging, so they always need to be copied.
Outside of unlogged and temporary tables, I don't know of any case
where make a critical modification to an already-existing block
without bumping the LSN. I hope there is no such case.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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