Re: PG10 transition tables, wCTEs and multiple operations on the same table

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Marko Tiikkaja <marko(at)joh(dot)to>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PG10 transition tables, wCTEs and multiple operations on the same table
Date: 2017-06-08 18:32:24
Message-ID: CA+TgmoYNo=_OMrCdYc-LQ12BvO+Uw78RW9136vxSjPTL4qFzyA@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> More generally, I don't think there's ever a
>> time when it's OK to commit a patch that you're not willing to put at
>> least some effort into fixing up afterwards.
>
> Kevin said "It has become clear that the scope of problems being found
> now exceed what I can be sure of being able to fix in time to make for
> a stable release, in spite of the heroic efforts Thomas has been
> putting in". I think it's clear that Kevin is willing to put in some
> work. The issue is that he is unable to *guarantee* that he'll be able
> to put in *sufficient* time, and in light of that concedes that it
> might be best to revert and revisit for Postgres 11. He is being
> cautious, and does not want to *risk* unduly holding up the release.
>
> That was my understanding, at least.

I understood the same. However, he didn't review or commit any of the
bug fix patches that Thomas posted in May, or even respond to the
mailing list threads. I eventually reviewed and committed them to
avoid having the feature reverted; it took me only a few hours.
Later, he said he would review the TransitionCaptureState patch Thomas
posted at PGCon, later said again on-list that he would do so by
Friday or anyway Monday, and it's now Thursday. In other words, I am
not going just by this particular email, but by the fact that he
hasn't committed so much as a one line bug fix or posted any reviews
in a long time. The last non-reverted commit he made related to this
feature was on April 6th, two days after the initial commit.

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Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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