From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Speed up Clog Access by increasing CLOG buffers |
Date: | 2016-09-29 14:35:08 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoY-sXi9u=Bg9U6sPBU3ec9W51bQRn-O6LUniE9zq04j9A@mail.gmail.com |
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Tomas Vondra
<tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> It's not impossible that the longer runs could matter - performance
>> isn't necessarily stable across time during a pgbench test, and the
>> longer the run the more CLOG pages it will fill.
>
> Sure, but I'm not doing just a single pgbench run. I do a sequence of
> pgbench runs, with different client counts, with ~6h of total runtime.
> There's a checkpoint in between the runs, but as those benchmarks are on
> unlogged tables, that flushes only very few buffers.
>
> Also, the clog SLRU has 128 pages, which is ~1MB of clog data, i.e. ~4M
> transactions. On some kernels (3.10 and 3.12) I can get >50k tps with 64
> clients or more, which means we fill the 128 pages in less than 80 seconds.
>
> So half-way through the run only 50% of clog pages fits into the SLRU, and
> we have a data set with 30M tuples, with uniform random access - so it seems
> rather unlikely we'll get transaction that's still in the SLRU.
>
> But sure, I can do a run with larger data set to verify this.
OK, another theory: Dilip is, I believe, reinitializing for each run,
and you are not. Maybe somehow the effect Dilip is seeing only
happens with a newly-initialized set of pgbench tables. For example,
maybe the patches cause a huge improvement when all rows have the same
XID, but the effect fades rapidly once the XIDs spread out...
I'm not saying any of what I'm throwing out here is worth the
electrons upon which it is printed, just that there has to be some
explanation.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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